O but such legs exist and that in many breeds. You either have correct legs or you dont. one simply has to learn- by comparrison which is which.
I have seen legs on arabian endurance horses I could easily give a "20".
I feel, if the leg structure is sound including the important hoofs, than a "20" is deserving. If a ahorse has detrimental faults, meaning you could not possible ask it to be ridden all over the place, than it deserves a "o".
What good is it if the front is so bad that the tendons will blow, or the kind putting pressure on the knees and shoulder and with it the horse goes lame.
What good is it if the hocks are so flimpsy with little gaskin to support it,and the cannon bone put in wrong, easily creating those painful wind puffs or bogs, that also deserves a "O" because such horse also will break down when being worked. One simply cant get a little bit pregnant, either you are or you are not! I know Liz does not like me to judge so "rudely/hurtingly" but gee weez how else can I discribe what can become a highly frustrating lamness- sometimes for ever. When you put a saddle and man on top of the horse, some weighing over 200 lbs, you better have a sound legged horse with proper conformation of the legs , as otherwise such rider be walking home after one mile. surely we are supposed to breed horses one can ride and not just look at, or?
Its like having a cup or plate with a crack, but still not broken. Give it half a chance and it will.
this goes for the rest of conformation. What would a difference be between 19 and 20 for a shoulder, rearend etc? Its either there or it is not. Would that "1" point difference mean hairs are missing? I truly can not see this point system in this fashion at all. And then comes this "type" business.
I have seen many georgeous type horses at the event, yet would not give a dime for them because their overal conformation was poor including legs. It would take God's best designed mare or stallion to correct this, and would take 4 generations to do it too, may be never.
If one wants a horse for stress work, dressage, hunting, jumping, racing etc than we better have a good conformation all over, otherwise we never get to win anything.
Now if we were to judge mutton whithers,shallow girth, weak hocks, offset cannons, pony hoofs in size, what does one do with such a horse?? Look at it?
Now, I have seen hoofs which make me shudder. On yearlings the size of weanlings, on two year olds the size of ten months olds, and many in oval shape infront, absolutely impossible to carry the horse on such through heavy terrain. But then a rider of consequence would know this. Some ancles like ball bearings, some you hardly notice, each one will or can create lamness.
We all can talk until we are blue in the face, the clue comes when you sit on top and ride hard. Just wonder how those cowboys of the past did it, riding fences, cattle (no I dont mean factually riding a fence or a cow) I mean checking fence lines and or herding cattle etc. If they would use unsound conformation structure, they be riding 5 minutes and rest in the sun all day and be fired.
But how can one be educated in all this? By comparrison ONLY, BY TESTING.
But even the soundest conformation horse can be a fluke, having no stamina,
courage, recovery rae, or quit half way down the road.
this is why "breeding classes" were established for the show ring and entries critically correct judged. Sentiments, who is who, love or hate simply dont belong there. When a good trainer can take a mule into an arab class and makes it look like an arab with all the cosmetics involved, all reasoning stops. Now please, I am not referring here to any horse shown, just a matter of speaking it is.
I often wondered what some trainers would do if they had to take a horse under their seat to save their life having to ride fast and long distance. would they take one of those halter champions they created or go down the road to a small breeder renting theirs? Good question, eh?
By giving generous points it is not helping at all, it gives false impressions.
By perluting true scores with multiple extra points for type it has created exactly what we are facing today. Those of you who were at the show will have seen many georgeous heads. Which one now is typier, how does one make a selection? Not only this, we now for some time actually perpetuate it all by having a "Most classic head class" the rest of the horses under a blanket. What nonsence is this please? Which one would you, I or others chose?
Most all would get either a first place ribbon or none at all, selection by personal taste, like Marilyn Monroe versa Jane Russel.
Anyway, may be I am getting too old to understand this system which has in my opinion no rythm or rhyme because of the point system. I truly feel sorry for the judges and more so for many an illconformed, created horse.
My opinion again
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