The newspaper yesterday said that Anky (the rider on the bay horse on that link to youtube under the grey mare' s video) is out of competition due to the birth of her child, and that Blu Hors Mantine (the grey mare) was slightly injured in the trailer on the way to the show across town here; Was sound going one way, not going the other, so she is out of the local show, per the vet who checked her.
A poster on another website said she too was used with rollkur???I could see it in the bay, who won the last year's competition. But can you see it in the grey too?..., maybe that is the lack of relaxation and the tail movement; she is not refusing, she is just not------. So if she was used with the rollkur, I don't know, because her ride seemed pretty good-----The bay horse looked stiff and harsh (in the cues and response to them), so I could see the rollkur there, but again this is all heresay and guessing. I agree that you would think in the upper levels of the sport that if they are using shortcuts????
Years ago when we were just starting even before we got our Egyptian Arabian stallion and were taking dressage lessons, we were told maybe one level a year in advancement and growth, barring injuries. Our horse was so athletic and smart and responsive, and we would NOT TAKE SHORTCUTS, our mentor (Than Hanchett who rode in Europe, and who taught us all we know about training and dressage since 1978) said the talent of that horse could move along faster than one level a year.
But if Mantine is only 8 or 9, and IF they used shortcuts on her to get her to that level, that is the point if she can stay sound. Most dressage horses really come into their own in their teens; look at the Lippizan horses who spend most of their youth in training with their riders, and only at maturity, years later are they shown at the higher levels. The Andalusian horses and others I have seen here in Las Vegas like at Cheval and Cavalia, ..the other breeds were younger horses shown at one point in their training, and the older horses were shown at another point in their advanced training.
That is what so concerns me when I go to a show and see all the short cuts in the horses under saddle--draw reins, tie downs, harsh bits and spurs, tight martingales. I know that all aids are only usually as severe as the rider that can uses them in a mean or abusive way, but it still sends a message to the beginner that you must use these to get that result. I will go to the Vegas show in a few hours, and will be really interested in the result obtained (in halter and in performance) at what expense to the horse. We always believed that less is more. If the rider/handler is experienced and knows their horse, and wants fewer/no injuries, there should be fewer or no shortcuts.
You are making me think again!!!! Thanks.
(PS--I did ask for dressage/jumping/endurance/trail as demos at the show---no answer--we'll see what I find out when I go down there. PSS--I have given maps and invitations to the show and the Egyptian meeting Saturday night to my whole class here at school and put ads for them in the newspaper. Haven't seen anything else publicity wise. A friend of mine said there was coverage (live photo shoot early this morning from the World Cup Dressage/Jumping) on tv this morning. Marilee in Las Vegas