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mckulley1
post Aug 27 2007, 07:12 PM
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I have been told it is only about 2-3% of the USA Arabian horse owners who show at the class A and National level. That is such a small percentage....primarily the rest of the population doing home, trail, and open show activities.

I am curious to find out what the percentages are for other countries? Are we about the same as everyone else? Or is there a lesser or more active participation in showing around the world?

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post Aug 28 2007, 11:35 AM
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I think 99 per cent of the Arabian owners here show as well, but most also do endurance and some unofficial racing and some do showjumping with them also-oh yes,and tent pegging of course!
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post Aug 28 2007, 12:36 PM
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WOW, 99% show in a rated class in your country! Now that is impressive. What is it that attracts them to showing? By finding out how other countries are more successful with getting their Arabian horse owners into the showring.....perhaps we can improve our own?
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post Aug 28 2007, 01:29 PM
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The National show in Jordan that I judged not only had good sized classes, but good quality too.
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post Aug 28 2007, 03:44 PM
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Yes, but what are these other countries doing to get such high percentage of arabian horse owners to show that we (USA) are not doing?
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post Aug 28 2007, 04:28 PM
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It's probably cheaper and less political. Most of the judging uses the European scoring system.
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post Aug 28 2007, 04:46 PM
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Now there is a good point?

Would anyone like to volunteer how much they spend for one horse in a Halter class at one rated show in their country?
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post Aug 28 2007, 05:07 PM
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Mc Cully,

I believe that the Egyptian Event USA would be far more
of a comparable to other countries national shows.
JFYI our Futurity class at the Egyptian Event consisted of 54
fillies! I have been to the class A shows in Texas
and saw the futurity class had 3 colts???
I am not sure were our open shows have gone wrong!
Maybe we should format our open shows after the Egyptian Event!
Also other countries do not have half arabians filling half their classes!!!


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post Aug 28 2007, 07:03 PM
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That is very true though I'm not trying to compare WHAT is in the classes. I'm trying to compare the apples to apples of a rated Halter class for purebred HERE vs THERE.

I have to say, I am very disappointed in the reply to this thread. Is it a secret what other countries do????
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post Aug 29 2007, 08:28 PM
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Well here in sweden the numbers are steadily decreasing - 68 horses came forward this year, an alltime low.
In Poland it was the biggest nationals ever, 160 horses listed in the catalogue - on one day. It finished at 11 p.m.! For the first time ever they had colt classes so the first ever genuine national champion colt was judged - in pouring rain I might add!
I heard that at the national show in Norway 20 horses were judged!
Please someone from Norway confirm that this was true - it seems ubelievable!.
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post Aug 29 2007, 08:36 PM
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I think here its that very few breeders are overly concerned with winning- they LOVE to of course but are interested in each others horses and dont get upset when others do well, and we DO try hard to have judges who are not political, and ask them to really look at the horse and not the "Production", as far as possible. Also its a chance to get together and "have a go", so even horses NOT in normal "Show conditiopn", come,and small studs often do very well. Perhaps being a smaller community (we are a small countyr!) helps.Its a nice time to sit and talk horses and watch horses etc...lots of owners children show for their stables, and that makes it more personal and maybe less cutthroat?
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post Aug 29 2007, 09:27 PM
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I love the last response. Also cheaper and less political is a great answer.

I think many people look at show results with mixed emotions. It is expensive, and can be potentially harmful to the horse. Some people want a win at any price, as if that justifies the worth of an animal. The + and / after some horses'' names are correlated to the money and time the owner has to haul that horse all over to show them under multiple judges or maybe multiple disciplines. A great horse might be a show winner, but a show winner is not always the best representative of his/her breed or the best trained or best mover that day for that judge.

So I find it encouraging that there are many out there who are interested in show results, but not obsessed with them, and are not driven to breed to a horse solely for show record, but for the value as a breeding animal or to improve breed characteristics or complement their mare/stallion. Would you take a valuable horse far away to show them for limited return or no return? It does not guarantee success or more money or more breedings. There are many show champions who I would not own or breed to. So to each his own. I think more education and more grass roots promotion in a non-showing environment is the key to helping our Arabians. Showing in open or breed events is but a small part of that.
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post Aug 29 2007, 09:28 PM
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It's correct there was only some 20 horses on our National show this year. Of course it's an extremly low number but there is a reason.

The"national" show is a rather new invention as we have a larger International B-Show as well every year (had for quite some years) with good size classes. We have appr. 700 arabians in Norway and usually have appr. 70 horses from Norway in the show plus 30-40 from other countries wich together makes a good number.
Most of the owners does however several performance disiplines with their horses and only a handful of horses in our country are "showhorses" alone.
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post Aug 30 2007, 12:44 AM
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Thank you for taking this in a great direction!

So, for Norway they have about a 10% turnout....about how much do you think it costs someone to go to this bigger B show with one horse?

I love the discussion regarding Jordan....I wish OUR shows were like a great big barbecue get together!
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post Aug 30 2007, 03:53 AM
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The AHSA suggests that for the Australian Arabian Championships (ownership exhibiting an Arabian (purebred / derivative)), one of the top class shows and the only one run by the AHSA, is approx. 13%
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