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phanilah
post Aug 7 2008, 08:16 PM
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The 1903 Russian studbook has also been mentioned here several times, including sections of the translation being posted. Again, the contents tend to go over like a lead balloon. wink.gif

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post Aug 7 2008, 08:21 PM
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Allrightythen! We're in denial, are we?? wink.gif

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post Aug 7 2008, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE (2mntn @ Aug 7 2008, 09:21 PM)
Allrightythen!  We're in denial, are we??  wink.gif

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Not I - but I can only handle being verbally assaulted and accused of a varitey of not so nice things, so many times - before I get tired of it....and I just don't have the energy to revisit the Skowronek thing again. wink.gif

The information is out there, in abundance, on this forum - I just wanted to note that Joe's (F) comments tie in nicely with some of the previously made comments on "why" there is even a controversy and the questions are legitimate.

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post Aug 7 2008, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE (phanilah @ Aug 7 2008, 01:30 PM)
Not I - but I can only handle being verbally assaulted and accused of a varitey of not so nice things, so many times - before I get tired of it....and I just don't have the energy to revisit the Skowronek thing again. wink.gif 


lassitude Beth....

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The information is out there, in abundance, on this forum - I just wanted to note that Joe's (F) comments tie in nicely with some of the previously made comments on "why" there is even a controversy and the questions are legitimate.

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post Aug 7 2008, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE (phanilah @ Aug 7 2008, 09:30 PM)
Not I - but I can only handle being verbally assaulted and accused of a varitey of not so nice things, so many times - before I get tired of it....and I just don't have the energy to revisit the Skowronek thing again. wink.gif 

The information is out there, in abundance, on this forum - I just wanted to note that Joe's (F) comments tie in nicely with some of the previously made comments on "why" there is even a controversy and the questions are legitimate.

Beth
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HUH?? You mean slamming a can of Red Bull won't help either? wink.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Sorry, and I'll shut up now.

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post Aug 7 2008, 08:46 PM
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LOL - now that Melissa is around, maybe we can split the abuse (again). LOL!
If we each only take 1/2 of the insults and accusations...that might not be too bad. ROFL!

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post Aug 7 2008, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE (Tous crins @ Aug 7 2008, 09:39 PM)
lassitude Beth....
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Christine - did you Bark at me just now ??? laugh.gif laugh.gif

LONGITUDE, BETH, LONGITUDE, not lassitude! Grab that Red Bull, show us that big, red "S" on your chest and shout Halleluiah!!

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post Aug 7 2008, 08:57 PM
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lassitude....snort smile.gif

Do you think the Red Bull would actually help? LOL!

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post Aug 7 2008, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE (2mntn @ Aug 7 2008, 09:48 PM)
Christine - did you Bark at me just now ???  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

LONGITUDE, BETH, LONGITUDE, not lassitude!  Grab that Red Bull, show us that big, red "S" on your chest and shout Halleluiah!! 

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Sure Ray.........it's all just geography, Right ?????
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post Aug 7 2008, 09:08 PM
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Dear Joe (F)

thank you for your post. You forgot to mention that Richard Pritzlaf used Bel Gordas in 1967 to produce Naszala for him in 1968. It was 1970 when my search began after Doug Marshall's warning. It was some years ago when Miss Ott personally shot 17 of her horses and had the veterinarian do the rest, discusted over a lot of things. I think Billy was there and then told me.So I guess even at that time people were breeding for a particular label in their mind, and not always for the horses.

I visited Richard numerous times, once stayed over a week at his place and we were close friends. He also visited my in Canada.Bill also accompanied at one time

Richard was upset not knowing of the error the AHRa made,actually was furiated.
We discussed this subject in length. That was also the time when he showed me the letter of Von Szandler returning Judi's letter to him she had written scolding him for selling Richard such bad horses. I feel certain that Edna Weeks also read it, and you may talk to her. And that started the drift, that's when Richard got upset..

I also talked to Peter Upton in in Bahrain regarding Skowronek. At that time he was adamend that Skowronek is Asil, at least this is how I understood it to be. I told him that I have taken "Honorable Lady" infront of Wentworth name out of my database, as I lost respect for her. Peter was very polite about the issue, but you may ask him the next time you see him.

You see my dear old friend, there are so many things still hidden in closets, and one needs to be careful in presenting with data so that no further confusion takes place. Time and place is always a good guideline. When we meet again, we can go deeper into some subjects, if you like.

Furthermore I enjoy discussing subject by subject and not comparing one to the other, meaning horses. Although I ask numerous times, nobody has yet come forward to help identifying the buyer in Egypt of the over 100 Syrian/Egyptian horses sent back by King Emanual II in 1872. They a recorded in the Italian JC book together with over 600 Syrians imported in 1821-and forward by King Emanual II. The Egyptian parent in them came fromt he A Pasha auction sale.
If we ever find an answer to my question we might be able to shed light on other SEs. I even gave Edouard a total 8 lbs print out years ago, and still now answer.
I even had a friend go to the Italian JC for me, pay $ 250.- to have my copy certified and have it right here, certified. I dont speak Italian, the reason why..

I feel this way, about everything we discover having questions, somewhere out there is an answer.To jump to conclusions has never been my style. To have some people get angry over it is not wise.

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post Aug 7 2008, 09:09 PM
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Beth, I even got the russian Stud books in russian language, I dont speak.

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post Aug 7 2008, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE (HLM @ Aug 7 2008, 02:08 PM)
Dear Joe (F)

It was some years ago when Miss Ott personally shot 17 of her horses and had the veterinarian do the rest, discusted over a lot of things. I think Billy was there and then told me.So I guess even at that time people were breeding for a particular label in their mind, and not always for the horses

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She did WHAT????

I am sorry Hansi, I am just about to faint....
Whatever the reason it is sickening.

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post Aug 7 2008, 09:32 PM
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She SHOT 17 HORSES?????? In heaven's name, why would anyone do that !!!! That is really ugly.
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post Aug 7 2008, 09:33 PM
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As I said Christine, there are many things in a closet, but this fact is open and known to many and it is true. Believe me, I also was sick to my stomach.

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post Aug 7 2008, 09:38 PM
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Why Cathy, has you friend in the West not told you about this? Or our traveller?
Not everything which shines is gold my young friend. Learned this a long time ago and the hard way,.

O BTW Mike I heard is back in Scotland, leaving some disare in Ireland it is said. Now that is hearsay. Cant prove it, but comes from reliable sources.

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