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> Maybe A Dumb Question., How do you know if your horse is straight egyptian?
Gary Lee
post Jul 30 2011, 11:41 PM
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Hey everyone. It's been a while. Been checking out those Abayyan lines slowly and surely. But somewhere a while back someone brought up that one of the tail female lines wasn't straight egyptian (don't ask me which one, I don't remember). In my search for answers I've asked just exactly how do you know a horse is straight egyptian. Of course I could buy data source and just go through each horse one by one until I got my answers because if I remember correctly it lists on there that they are straight egyptian. But until that day comes I'd like to know how everyone else finds that information preferably online because I don't have any of the books. I've been on the Al Khamsa website but I recently read that even Al Khamsa won't tell you if a horse is straight egyptian.

Any information is greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for your help. smile.gif
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Fairfax
post May 8 2012, 05:41 PM
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My involvement with S.E. is actually traced to two individuals Char Rabdan owned by Merle Stier and Serenity Inshalla owned byi Verna Dyer.Both were friends of mine.. Verna passed away last year and Merle many years ago.

Of course Eleanor McColley R Farm and I were very close and after the USDA told her to kill all of her Arabians due to SCIDS contamination..she ventured into S.E.'s...but her heart wasn't in it. I spent one season with Richard Pritlaff and knew his horses and was blessed with riding many of them.

I spoke with GBE on numerous occasions and I think that Gene (Junior) discussing the book sale to their "association for Polish breeders/Lasma" with Gladys present is about as close as it can get. The Polish sales I attended where GBE was present were in Poland and the Lasma Sales.

I ahve always respected your requests of information as to the sucess of my Arabians and my proof of my statements but Liz has NEVER answered ONE QUESTION from me...taking the 5th...saying it was private

Oh...Hansi......Liz is the founder of the We hate Preservation Breeders Group with 3 members. I am sure after this has now come to light she will be quickly removing it from Face Book.

My involvement with the Arabian breed does not rival yours on numbers and successes however it equally spans yours for duration...and I suspect trumps yours for duration via family..mine goes back prior to 1876 in Europe
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- Gary Lee   Maybe A Dumb Question.   Jul 30 2011, 11:41 PM
- - Nadj al Nur   Hi Gary........probably, the easiest thing for you...   Jul 31 2011, 06:20 AM
|- - Gary Lee   QUOTE (Nadj al Nur @ Jul 30 2011, 11:20 P...   Jul 31 2011, 07:27 AM
- - Nadj al Nur   QUOTE (Gary Lee @ Jul 31 2011, 12:27 AM) ...   Jul 31 2011, 08:06 AM
|- - Gary Lee   QUOTE (Nadj al Nur @ Jul 31 2011, 01:06 A...   Jul 31 2011, 03:31 PM
- - Cheryl L   The other 2 books that would be great to add to Th...   Jul 31 2011, 03:45 PM
- - Gary Lee   Thanks Cheryl, I'll add those too   Jul 31 2011, 03:57 PM
- - Nadj al Nur   QUOTE (Cheryl L @ Jul 31 2011, 08:45 AM) ...   Jul 31 2011, 03:57 PM
- - Gary Lee   Actually, thinking about it, I think I have all th...   Jul 31 2011, 04:02 PM
|- - Gary Lee   QUOTE (Gary Lee @ Jul 31 2011, 09:02 AM) ...   Jul 31 2011, 04:32 PM
- - Nadj al Nur   QUOTE (Gary Lee @ Jul 31 2011, 09:02 AM) ...   Jul 31 2011, 04:33 PM
|- - Dieter   QUOTE (Nadj al Nur @ Jul 31 2011, 12:33 P...   May 4 2012, 10:11 PM
|- - 2mntn   QUOTE (Dieter @ May 4 2012, 04:11 PM) Exc...   May 5 2012, 02:59 AM
|- - Dieter   QUOTE (2mntn @ May 4 2012, 10:59 PM) I ca...   May 5 2012, 11:56 PM
- - Cheryl L   Agreed on the Blue Star/List, it is that simple. ...   Jul 31 2011, 05:04 PM
- - Gary Lee   Well my search of the blue star/blue list informat...   Jul 31 2011, 05:30 PM
- - Nadj al Nur   QUOTE (Gary Lee @ Jul 31 2011, 10:30 AM) ...   Jul 31 2011, 05:59 PM
|- - Gary Lee   QUOTE (Nadj al Nur @ Jul 31 2011, 10:59 A...   Jul 31 2011, 06:13 PM
- - Nadj al Nur   Also.........Turfa is not officially listed as Abb...   Jul 31 2011, 06:04 PM
|- - Gary Lee   QUOTE (Nadj al Nur @ Jul 31 2011, 11:04 A...   Jul 31 2011, 06:15 PM
- - Gary Lee   That being said, I understand theirs controversy a...   Jul 31 2011, 06:16 PM
- - Nadj al Nur   That's what I mean...........conflicting evide...   Jul 31 2011, 06:22 PM
|- - Gary Lee   QUOTE (Nadj al Nur @ Jul 31 2011, 11:22 A...   Jul 31 2011, 06:30 PM
- - Nadj al Nur   QUOTE (Gary Lee @ Jul 31 2011, 11:30 AM) ...   Jul 31 2011, 07:22 PM
|- - Gary Lee   QUOTE (Nadj al Nur @ Jul 31 2011, 12:22 P...   Jul 31 2011, 07:25 PM
|- - DitaAlAnastasia   QUOTE (Gary Lee @ Jul 31 2011, 08:25 PM) ...   May 4 2012, 01:07 PM
|- - Caryn Rogosky   QUOTE (DitaAlAnastasia @ May 4 2012, 03:0...   May 8 2012, 03:42 AM
- - SKM   I recommend looking up all the references to Turfa...   May 5 2012, 02:22 PM
- - karin   Very interesting topic this. Thank you for sharin...   May 5 2012, 07:04 PM
- - Fairfax   Liz..you are so tiresome with your on going trashi...   May 6 2012, 07:54 PM
|- - HLM   QUOTE (Fairfax @ May 6 2012, 09:54 PM) Li...   May 7 2012, 11:17 AM
|- - Dieter   QUOTE (HLM @ May 7 2012, 07:17 AM) Hi Leo...   May 7 2012, 12:47 PM
||- - HLM   QUOTE (Dieter @ May 7 2012, 02:47 PM) Hi ...   May 7 2012, 12:58 PM
|- - Caryn Rogosky   QUOTE (HLM @ May 7 2012, 01:17 PM) Hi Leo...   May 8 2012, 03:26 AM
|- - M.D.   QUOTE (Caryn Rogosky @ May 8 2012, 04:26 ...   May 8 2012, 06:13 AM
- - Fairfax   GBE wrote the book standard on Wire Haired Terrier...   May 8 2012, 01:05 AM
- - Fairfax   My information regarding GBE is correct and was c...   May 8 2012, 02:36 PM
|- - Caryn Rogosky   QUOTE (Fairfax @ May 8 2012, 04:36 PM) My...   May 8 2012, 03:02 PM
|- - HLM   QUOTE (Fairfax @ May 8 2012, 03:36 PM) My...   May 8 2012, 03:27 PM
|- - Dieter   QUOTE (HLM @ May 8 2012, 11:27 AM) I thin...   May 9 2012, 01:53 AM
|- - Fairfax   QUOTE (Dieter @ May 9 2012, 02:53 AM) Dea...   May 9 2012, 02:39 AM
|- - HLM   QUOTE (Fairfax @ May 9 2012, 04:39 AM) I ...   May 9 2012, 01:45 PM
|- - Caryn Rogosky   QUOTE (HLM @ May 9 2012, 03:45 PM) Unless...   May 9 2012, 02:26 PM
||- - HLM   QUOTE (Caryn Rogosky @ May 9 2012, 04:26 ...   May 9 2012, 02:56 PM
|- - Dieter   QUOTE (HLM @ May 9 2012, 09:45 AM) (snipp...   May 9 2012, 04:10 PM
|- - Caryn Rogosky   This is a bit confusing. According to Hansi, GBE n...   May 9 2012, 07:06 PM
|- - HLM   QUOTE (Fairfax @ May 8 2012, 07:41 PM) My...   May 8 2012, 06:34 PM
- - Fairfax   Hansi I am SHOCKED that you, of all people, would...   May 8 2012, 07:27 PM
|- - HLM   QUOTE (Fairfax @ May 8 2012, 09:27 PM) Ha...   May 9 2012, 05:35 PM
- - Fairfax   P.S. Eleanor owned Ibn Mirage and crossed him on t...   May 8 2012, 07:29 PM
- - Nadj al Nur   here is a link to Liz' Facebook group for you ...   May 8 2012, 09:40 PM
|- - Caryn Rogosky   QUOTE (Nadj al Nur @ May 8 2012, 11:40 PM...   May 9 2012, 02:06 AM
- - Fairfax   Liz Dieter updated the description. This group has...   May 8 2012, 09:58 PM
|- - Caryn Rogosky   QUOTE (Fairfax @ May 8 2012, 10:58 PM) Li...   May 9 2012, 01:29 AM
- - MHuprich   QUOTE (HLM @ May 8 2012, 02:34 PM) ... We...   May 8 2012, 10:07 PM
|- - Caryn Rogosky   QUOTE (MHuprich @ May 8 2012, 11:07 PM) S...   May 9 2012, 01:24 AM
- - Fairfax   I did have a Blue Star and a Straight Egyptian sta...   May 9 2012, 03:04 PM
|- - HLM   QUOTE (Fairfax @ May 9 2012, 04:04 PM) I ...   May 9 2012, 05:05 PM
- - Fairfax   Hansi These are the posts by Liz on the Facebook ...   May 9 2012, 03:10 PM
|- - HLM   QUOTE (Fairfax @ May 9 2012, 04:10 PM) Ha...   May 9 2012, 05:00 PM
- - karin   I think this topic is now really OFF TOPIC. Kari...   May 9 2012, 06:14 PM
|- - HLM   QUOTE (karin @ May 9 2012, 07:14 PM) I th...   May 9 2012, 06:39 PM
- - jerelkerby   Please let's stay civil, together and yet open...   May 9 2012, 07:22 PM
|- - Dieter   QUOTE (jerelkerby @ May 9 2012, 03:22 PM)...   May 9 2012, 10:01 PM
- - Seglawiyat   I would be happy to sit down and have a soda Jerel...   May 9 2012, 10:20 PM
- - Fairfax   Fast points as it should stay on topic Char Rabda...   May 9 2012, 10:42 PM
- - HLM   QUOTE (Fairfax @ May 9 2012, 11:42 PM) Fa...   May 9 2012, 11:37 PM


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