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Stephan Eberhard...
post Mar 4 2012, 02:25 PM
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Ich suche Infos über den Verbleib, der unten genannten, tunesisch gezogenen Stuten:

Jara Bint Jasoub
Zara Bint Jasoub
Zaara Habiba
Jilfan Nadira.

Danke
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post Mar 5 2012, 12:59 AM
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can you give more information about these mares. They are Tunesian bred but where were are they? So people can help. Do you have pedigreee?

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post Mar 5 2012, 04:04 PM
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They are located in Germany. There are no pedigrees online.
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post Mar 6 2012, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE (Stephan Eberhardt @ Mar 5 2012, 05:04 PM) *
They are located in Germany. There are no pedigrees online.



DEar STephen

I have the pedigree information Jara Bint Jasoub is a Jilfan Satam El Bulad, but carriers "Barr"
but has so many.many Asils in the pedigree

Sometime back I was sent the documents on Barr" which I still have on my back burner as a partbred, due to the FRSB stud book information (barb, etc)

I had computer crashes and also other important thigns to take care off, so do not have those documents emailed or whatever, to me.

Is it possible for you to e-mail me these again, in case you have them or have someone you know has them do it please

I would so much love to clear "Barr" and then the Asil Club will consider accepting them. I will also contct Edouard Al Dahdah for his opinion. He told me recently that there are Asils in Tunesia, and I for certain like to have them added to the Asil Club List..

thanks in advance and have a grand day
Hansi
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post Mar 6 2012, 06:06 PM
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The Tunisian stud book for PUREBRED Arabians continues to include Barr offspring in the list of purebred foals. Just being accepted for Barb breeding does not mean he is no longer a purebred Arabian.
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post Mar 6 2012, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE (Stephan Eberhardt @ Mar 4 2012, 03:25 PM) *
Ich suche Infos über den Verbleib, der unten genannten, tunesisch gezogenen Stuten:

Jara Bint Jasoub
Zara Bint Jasoub
Zaara Habiba
Jilfan Nadira.

Danke
Stephan



Dear Stephen
here are more details

Jara Bint Jasoub (1993)a Jilfan Satam El Bulad
bred by Sabine Bode & Adolf Kaltenecker, ARzfeld, Germany

Zar Bint Jasoub (195) a Jilfan Satam El Bulad
Bred by Sabine & Adolf Bode, Arzfeld,Germany

Zaara Habiba (1994) no strain located
Bred by Peter Merbele, Altisried, Germany

Jilfan Nadira (1993) a Kuhaylah'ajuz
Bred by Prof. Alfred Jung, Reutlingen, Germany

Possibly these breeders can give you information as to where to locate thes horses.

Hansi
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post Mar 6 2012, 11:13 PM
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nice work Hansi

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post Mar 7 2012, 03:29 PM
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Thank you, but I'm looking for the owners not the breeders (I know who are the breeder).

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post Mar 7 2012, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE (Stephan Eberhardt @ Mar 7 2012, 05:29 PM) *
Thank you, but I'm looking for the owners not the breeders (I know who are the breeder).

Stephan



I know you do Stephen, but I thought by contacting the breeders they could tell you more.

BTW for many years I have tried to clear "Barr" (all the horses you mentioned carry him).
I have delt with the French on another issue and did not get a response until I put my foot down.
The French are superb-Gentleme with charm to boost, but there are exceptions.

I will once more contact them to ascertain if they are willing to admit that "Barr" was only listed under Anglo progeny, but indeed is considered a "Purebred" and if so what evidence they have. All I could find out that it is stored in their archive and to get to it is like pulling teeth. Together with the documentation some of you have, I might be able to shed more light into the situation. As you know hundreds of horses are involved
Now lets see how long it will take to get a reply, and if I do, I will let you know.

If these horses carrying Barr are cleared, they are eligable to be accepted by the Asil Club and hopefully such owners than will join this prestiges Club. I would tickle me pink to get clearance.

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post Mar 8 2012, 04:42 PM
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Unfortunately I can not ask the breeders because a breeder has died and the others are moved and the I can't find out the new place they are living.

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QUOTE (Stephan Eberhardt @ Mar 8 2012, 05:42 PM) *
Unfortunately I can not ask the breeders because a breeder has died and the others are moved and the I can't find out the new place they are living.



OKay Stephen, let me try as soon as I can and I let you know. I would truly flike to find data to include the "Barr" get/offspring as "Asils" where they are, meaning there are no other Non-Ails in their pedigree.
I feel it is always good to save as many as we can, we are the minority with only about five percent left internationally of Asils, and 95percent in my opinion are not. that percentage can change, as we get more data on some.
I spent already many hours on the subject and then put it on ice, because of time and insufficient data.

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