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Pete Hiatt
post Jun 17 2005, 05:05 AM
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We are now at a point where we are about 6 generations removed from the great Nazeer. There are no sons left and likely no grandsons left. Fortunately, we have many stallion and mare lines available to the great one. Who has some very high % Nazeer mares and stallions? I have two stallions and 3 mares with just over 43% Nazeer. Do I hear 44% anywhere?
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post Jun 17 2005, 09:50 AM
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I know the Stallions Ansata El Salaam and Ansata Selman ! They have alot Nazeer but I dont know how much in % ?!
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post Jun 17 2005, 11:32 AM
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Nazeer still has some grandsons around, I can think of two off the top of my head. Halim El Mansour and Glorietta Gazal.
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post Jun 17 2005, 12:28 PM
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Ansata El Salaam 40.9625%
Halima El Mansour 31.325%
Glorieta Gazal 25%
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post Jun 17 2005, 01:02 PM
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IF U DON'T MIND PLZ
WOULD SOME ONE TELL ME HOW DO U COUNT THIS % ?
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post Jun 17 2005, 01:25 PM
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Yassmin, it is simple: you add up the % of the parents and divide by two. Or add up the gradsparents and divide by four.
At least, that seems to be meant in this thread. There are other, more complicated methods based on genetic laws, but I am not familiar with those. The % indicated in this thread is (more or less) consistent with the simple rule I indicated above.

A child of Nazeer (100) out of a non-Nazeer dam (0) has (100 + 0) / 2 = 50%.
The combination of two such Nazeer children: (50 + 50) / 2 = 50%.
A Nazeer grandchild where there is no further addition of Nazeer blood: (50 + 0) / 2 = 25%
The combination of a Nazeer grandchild with a Nazeer child where the other lines have no Nazeer: (50 + 25) / 2 =37.5%.

Halim el Mansour : sire is 50% Nazeer. dam is 25% Nazeer, so the horse himself is 37.5% Nazeer.
Ansata El Salaam: he grandparents are: 50, 25, 50 37.5% Nazeer. Add them up and divide by 4 and you get 40.625%
Glorieta Gazaal: The grandparnets have: 50, 50, 0, 0, which makes 25%

In the All breed pedigree you can look it up: horse's name. "Report"> linebreeding. The first column indicating percentages gives the values as calculated above. The second percentages column I don't know.
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post Jun 17 2005, 01:51 PM
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bterlann:
u are always there biggrin.gif to answer my silly questions tongue.gif
thank u my friend so much
another one plz ... so what is the COI % ?
once a friend explaned to me but i got notheing sad.gif

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post Jun 17 2005, 02:08 PM
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Hi Yassmin, not silly at all? Silly is NOT asking what you want to know smile.gif Or not admitting that you don't know something.
And sorry, I am not always there for you: I don't know what COI% means wink.gif
I'll try to look it up.
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post Jun 17 2005, 02:12 PM
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Aha, Coefficient Of Inbreeding. That is the more complicated calculation to which I referred. I googled "COI % genetics" and I got this (and others), perhaps it helps:
http://www.canine-genetics.com/pgbreed.htm
http://www.dogstuff.info/playing_coi_sharp.html
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post Jun 17 2005, 02:19 PM
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Radames II: 43.75% Nazeer. Salaa el Dine x Ansata Rebecca, who is 50% Nazeer in a mix of combinations.
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post Jun 17 2005, 02:27 PM
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Hey Pete, smile.gif

I have a SE stallion who is 45.875% Nazeer blood?

Do I hear 46? biggrin.gif

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post Jun 17 2005, 02:38 PM
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Zandai Jasoor - 2003 SE stallion

Horse............................................Crosses.................Blood%.................. AGR
ANSATA IBN HALIMA...........................4........................40.63%...................62.16%
ANSATA SHAH ZAMAN........................3........................18.75%...................56.59%
MORAFIC................................................5....................... 21.88%...................50.53%
NAZEER...............................................14........................4
0.63%...................48.90%

ANSATA BINT BUKRA..........................2............ .............9.38%...................39.20%
SHEIKH EL ARAB...............................14........................14.45%...................32.79%*
MANSOUR...........................................22........................26.9
5%...................31.33%*
MABROUKA (1951)..............................8.........................15.63%...................31.16%




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post Jun 17 2005, 02:53 PM
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thank you thank you bterlann biggrin.gif smile.gif
Your's yassmin
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post Jun 17 2005, 11:39 PM
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Hello,

Isn't the Ibn Halima son El Hadiyyah still alive?
And his brother El Majjid?

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post Jun 17 2005, 11:55 PM
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I don't know how to do the percentages-but I have a broodmare that I count 10 crosses to Morafic or Nazeer in that column alone. She is line bred Serenity Sonbolah-I think Hansi can speak more on that linage.
I tried to download a copy of the pedigree, but can't seem to do this here....sorry.
Necia 1992 bay mare AHA 496654.
If anyone knows how to figure % please educate me. thanks.
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