Information of Imperial Impressiv (Ansata Impirial x Impirial Mistry)
14/01/1987

Data and some photo?

Thanks.

Hello.
You'll find some photos in the "Quiz" section. Go to the "Growing foals".
He is the chestnut with the white blaze.

Imperial Impresiv was sold to Uruguay and had some championships
there. Oliver saw him there years ago and was deeply impressed with
his extreme type and lovely disposition.

Dear Aleksi, I know that Imperial Impressiv was Champion here in Uruguay in 1990, but wanted to know that aspect had.
In the section Quiz themselves not the photos are seen.



When be able I expect the photo!

Thanks, Aleksi

Best Regards,

Maripa

It has been fixed now.
Hopefully...

Here are some photos of Impressiv. What kind of other info are you looking for?

Just a personal comment - he is a full brother to one of my favorite mares, Imperial ImTiarah.

Beth

Oops - sorry, didn't realize the new forum only allows 1 photo per post. Here is another one.

Beth

Thanks Phanilah, Aleksi and Oliver!!

Is a pleasure to know better to Imperial Impressiv. I know its owners from here, but I have not seen photos of Imperial Impressiv and neither of Tetuan (another stallion that myself intrigue).

Marianella

Dear Beth,
your knowledge about the Imperial horses is fantastic. Can you tell me something about Impressiv's disposition and behaviour? Was he a "character"? And about his brother Imperial Imperor? Were this boys different in type, conformation and disposition? Which one do you like best?
Thank you so much.
Babs

Dear Beth,
and would you be so kind to describe for us Ansata Imperial.
He is one of my favourites and would love to get some "first hand"
information about him.

Hi Babs,

Unfortunately, both Impresiv and Imperor were "before my time", so to speak, at Imperial - so my knowledge of them is based on photographs only and since Impresiv is out of the country and with Imperor's untimely death, they are 2 that I will miss not having been able to see in the flesh. Although it has been a while since I've really taken a close look at their pictures, color aside, it seems that Imperor always reminded me more of Ansata Imperial and Impresiv more of Mistry.

I did, however, work with their dam, Imperial Mistry, who is an incredibly sweet mare (built solid as a rock) and produced several very nice foals - with ImTiarah being my favorite. And The Imp, well, what can be said about such a wonderful horse and so many of his great offspring.

Beth

Hi Oliver,

What would you like to know? I had the honor of taking care of Imp during the final months of his life, so I didn't get to experience him is his full glory - but even with his physical circumstances, he was as regal and commanding as ANY horse I have ever been around.

He was "classic Arabian" all around, had lots of opinions about things and to me was the epitomy of what an Arabian stallion should be. Like any horse, he had his shortcomings, but as an individual and sire - I think his record speaks for itself.

It broke my heart the day he was put down and I still miss him very much - all of these years later. But, his incredible spirit and fire still lives on through so many wonderful horses.


Beth

Hello Beth!Thank you and to the other forum members for all of the information.Would you happen to know where I can find a picture on Imperor as I have just purchased a grandaughter by Impresiv's full brother,Imperial Imperor and am looking for all the information I can gather.I have included a picture of him below....I think quality was definitely a part of this family.....I appreciate any help you can give me please.It sure is nice to hear from someone that has known the horse first hand-thank you for sharing with us!

PS-I cannot read the photographers signature,so I do not know who took the photo,nice one though..

Hello Beth!Thank you and to the other forum members for all of the information.Would you happen to know where I can find a picture on Imperor? as I have just purchased a grandaughter by Impresiv's full brother,Imperial Imperor and am looking for all the information I can gather.I have included a picture of him below....I think quality was definitely a part of this family.....I appreciate any help you can give me please.It sure is nice to hear from someone that has known the horse first hand-thank you for sharing with us!

Hi Lisa,

I'll check through the reference handbooks for you, but I think the photo of Imperor you posted is probably one of the better ones. I also wanted to apologize for any confusion in my previous post - as my reference to "The Imp" was actually for Ansata Imperial (he had a variety of barn names [some using expletives], but "Imp/Impy" was the main one.)

Unfortunately, I never had the opportunity see Imperor before he passed away.

Just general FYI - I think I have a photo in my binder of Mistry and ImTiarah - I'll try to scan them later on.

Beth

Thank you beth and everyone else that is contributing to this thread.I am loving the photos and the stories Beth is sharing with us. . .I am so happy to have Imp's blood joining my herd. .

Dear Beth,
thank you very much - you answered it almost all here and in "Imp's" thread. I just wanted to know about his character, how it was to deal with him on a daily basis. So many people raved about him and his special character I was interested to learn more about him. I saw him once and was deeply impressed with him. I was very young then and he apperaed like a fairy-tale horse with his shimmering tail and mane and flaring nostrils. He had a commanding presence. He just gave me goosebumps. One of those horses I always will remember. Always...

Oliver wrote: "He just gave me goosebumps".

So ironic, I was going to use the exact same phrase. I can tell you tale after tale about dealing with Impy (some directly from me, others I was told about). For the average person reading, they'd think he was just a maniac - but to those who had worked around him - you knew different. The horse was just SPECIAL - I can't think of any other term or any horse (and there have been many special ones) that were the same as Imp.

If I could ever resurrect a horse - it would be him.

Beth

I apologize for the delay in posting this - here is a photo of Impresiv's dam, Imperial Mistry.


Beth

(Photo by Scott Trees)

Here is a photo of Impresiv's full sister, Imperial ImTiarah.

Beth

(photo by Scott Trees)

Dear Beth,

thanks for this photo.
I was trying to locate to Imperial Impressive, because he no longer lives in Uruguay, seems that he was sold for Chile.
But not yet I collect precise data.
Here if I have known daughters him, very pretty.


Best Regards,

Marianella

Returning to Impressiv, I discovered a very good mare in performance, that I have seen in several tests without knowledge that was Impressiv´s daughter.

Here I leave to a photo of her of the month of January in the International Week Of the Arabian Horse in Punta del Este, Uruguay.
The Solanas beachs.

Her Name: JAT Tamara
Photo by SCCAU 2003

Beth~

Thank you for sharing that picture of Mistry. One look at that mare and you can tell why Impressiv must be just that.

Natalie

Hi Lisa, Beth and all
I saw Impressive at the quarantine in Miami before his departure together with other mares Philippe Du Boubon,Montevideo, Uruguay purchased. We were shipping a dozen Arabians to Brazil, which also had to go through Miami at the same time..

Imperial Impressive was a flashy and elegant stallion in my eyes.I could not see him moving, but did check his overall conformation, which was very good. He was calm and attentive in his stall and when I petted him, he put his head down, enjoying it. He had a very kind eye, yet filled with fire. He appreared to be fearless. I liked him very much.

Philippe told me lateron that he liked the stallion very much and that he did well for him.

Hansi

My dear Hansi,

The breed of arabians had before and after Philippe. They say (the breeders of many years) that the Society was wonderful when he was his president. After their death all change, some say that for badly, others say that they follow his way.
I lamentably don´t get to know his brilliant epoch.

On Impressiv, I have not received good commentaries and say that he had many defects, like for example, great ears. I did not know it either, but equal it seems to me interesting. You have seen some Impressiv´s offsprings?
What´s you thinks?

Best Regards from Montevideo,

Marianella

Photoy by Bisiliat

Dear Marianella,
Imperial Impressiv was to me what his name implies - simply "impressiv". He was a horse, a real horse, no show poodle. Every serious rider would have loved to own him. I can echo Hansi's comments about him and I saw him running loose, he had such a ground-covering trot it was a joy to watch him playing in his paddock. He was totally Arabian but again not one of those "just pretty faces" with a chiselled head and nothing more. He was very upright and had a proud bearing, his neck was attached proper to the body and was in tune with his body, not too long, not too short. I honestly can't say whether or not his ears were too big but his face was lovely with eyes that spoke volumes to you. He was a chestnut and although this is not my favourite colour I fell for him within a blink of an eye. He had that extra special, was not tall but stood like a man. Compared to the show horses of today or some of the extremely refined Egyptian horses of the "post Halim Shah era" he may be of a different type. But this type was no less impressiv. Unfortunately I saw very few of his offspring, so I can't judge him as a sire.

My dear friend Oliver,

I do not give bad opinion on an animal that jámas I have seen in movement As I said before, lamentably I could not know it, my incursion by the Uruguayan Arabians is not of long time and recently that I integrate the Society of Breeders. But I have known certain descendants of Impressiv and I adore them. But their owners do not give good you criticize on them and their sire.
But Tamarah, is very good in performance, has not gained the championship, but in a future it will obtain it.
I believe that always good horses look for to integrate the breeding program. If Mr. Du Bourbon, integrated to Impressivv to his farm (Haras Jinnah Al Tayr), he´s for some valued reason.
Lamentably in year 94 it was I complete year in which their horses in championships saw themselves. Of it began there to change the breeding, for badly or good? (I not it but believe that the breeding has changed much and not very well. )

The Dr Nagel was the judge in 1990 in Punta del Este, Uruguay. Who it gave him to Impressiv the title of Great Champion Stallion and G. Champion Mare, Ansata Aya Nadira by Jamil.(owner Philipe Du Bourbon).
That same year in September, Impressiv returns to obtain I title of Uruguayan National Champion Stallion.

Thank for your Oliver commentary.

take care,

Marianella

Hi Oliver
thank you , this is beautiful picture and that's how I remember him .Here again is an example of the different "types" and yet he screams all bout him "I am An SE Arabian". when people over many years see many different types, they will quickly learn to judge accordingly, and fairly.

while some people are dead on stuck with the A .Shah Halim offspring, others are not. While some are stuck with the Morafic type, others are not.. At the end =what these horses can do- will be the deciding factor, because a good horse never has a bad colour.

In this photo Impressive shows so much regality, so much pride and fearlessness. Indeed, it is one of the nicest photos I have seen of any horse. while photos can be directive, they can never take the place of seeing the horse in the flesh

Dear Marinanella

No, I have not seen any offspring of IMpressive.
But I knew Philippe, we were good friends, and he was a connosoir. He did a great deal for Uruguay as far as Arabians are concerned. when his lovely wife passed away, she left to me her collection of Studbooks, etc, which Phillipe sent to me. I treasure them.

His nephew, Jack Orr, was to take over that huge farm in Uruguay but also Paraguay. My husband Bill gave him as a present "Khonosoir" (1981) a champion son of our Serenity IbnKhofo in 1987 and included Tom McNair's customs made western saddle, which I had baught from tom. Apparently he rode Khonossoir daily throught the ranches and bred him to many domestic mares with excellent results. Have you met Jack Orr, have you seen Khonosoir and his get?

Philippe was a connosoir, when it came to anything in life.
He is sadly missed by us, so is his wife.

Have a nice evening
Hansi

Dear Hansi,

I´m with pain, still I did not manage to know nothing on Jack. . Here the Society of Breeders is very closed.
I continue finding out on Jack.

I agree with you of which Philippe was an important piece related to the Arabians. Still they are left some vestiges of his works.
I have talked with other breeders and he´s surprised much .
Perhaps the Uruguayan Arabian would be in one better location.

You know is some other Uruguayan Breeder?

with affection,

Marianella

good morning dear Marinella

Just go to the farm, which I think still exists. It is huge.
I feel certain thee is were you will find Jack Orr, or find out where he is.
If you do find him, give him our love.

Hansi

I am thrilled i found this thread, i have to leave so i can not gather all the information quick enough but i'll say what i can with the time i have,

I have a son of Imperial Imperor, Imperor Impresion.


oops time to go.

i'll talk more later


Anyways....I have a son of Imperial Imperor. I have been searching through his pedigree for quite some time trying to absorb what i can about his history. I have not found that much information but i'll gather what i can off of saved records on my computer, along with information about Imperial Imperor off of other horse websites.

"Gibson Arabians, made their mark in the world of Egyptian and Egyptian Related show horses with the purchase of the exceptional stallion, Imperial Imperor, in the 1980’s.

Imperial Imperor
Ansata Imperial x Imperial Mistry Imperor was a Pyramid Society "Sire of Significance, sire of many World Class Supreme Champions, Egyptian World Junior Champions, Most Classic and Most Classic Head Champions, and a leading sire of winners at the Egyptian Event.
His loss to an unfortunate accident at the age of 12, was not only a loss to the Gibsons, who loved him dearly, but to the Egyptian Arabian community. "

thats all i currently know about him. I did find a site yesterday though that had all of Asata Imperial's let me see if i can find it once again.....

Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmentClick to view attachment My young stallion is of this family, being a maternal grandson of Imperial Mistry....and we a very pleased with the quality this young three year old....his dam is the beautiful Zandai Nile Aziza (Ansata Ibn Aziza x Imperial Mistry)

The Ansata Nile Mist family have produced numerous signifigent horses and a wonderful female line .

Hey Billy, your young stallion is wonderfull. I like its expression!
Thanks for to share with us.

Best Regards,

Marianella

Marianella,

Thank You for your kind words! We are very excited about our young stallion future as a sire and look forward to future foals. He comes from a long line of wondeful horses and carries these strong genetic genes to carry forward.

Billy W