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KarenSh
Hi All,
A few years ago I had a foal born with what is termed 'wry nose'.
Another lady this season was referred to me when she was presented with a colt foal with the same condition and it has prompted me to re do Bubbys website to hopefully provide some knowlege of what this condition is and the stages of recovery after an operation.
My mare was quite severe with her front teeth 90 degrees vertical to the right side of her face so she couldnt drink by herself and would not have been able to survive on her own, she would have slowly starved to death.
There is virtually no information on this condition as most of the foals are put down due to the cost of the operation and amount of work involved and as its quite a rare condition the cost of research hasnt been warranted.
I would love to hear from other people who have had foals like Bubby and also would like to ask them a few questions privately for my own research.
Through making this public on a couple of Australian yahoo groups I have found another mare who didnt need an operation and has foaled a beautiful filly, which gives me a lot of encouragement, as Bubby is in foal to my Amir.

So here is Bubby and her journey from birth to now.

Karen

nb: many people will not understand how and why I had to do my best for Bubby, mostly when it came to spending many thousands of dollars. I am a very, very small breeder and this foal would not have been born without my choosing to mate these 2 horses, and as soon as I knew she would be able to be used as a riding horse and a breeder I had to give her a chance to survive.
If anyone knows how to get this website onto google or other search engines i would be most appreciative.


www.freewebs.com/spfaridah
Guest
Hi Karen,

My husband Ken and I found your battle to give Bubby the best chance in life such an amazing thing. As you know we also had a wry nose mare who has just been sold to live in Tasmania. She had a perfectly normal, and quite exceptional filly last season. It is only the humans that find her "different", the other horses could care less, including the stallion that found her "very attractive" to produce such a stunning filly.

I have managed to get our website very high on google, but I think only out of luck. We linked our website with some of the larger arabian websites, and this obviously helped quite a bit. I can add her page to our website in our links page if you would like.

I can't wait to see your girls first foal.

Kindest Regards

Menna Hornsby
KarenSh
Hi Menna and Ken!
Thanks so much for your help and Kens wonderful explanations! I have taken a lot of encouragement from your lovely mare and gorgeous foal!
Exactly, Bubby has no idea she is different to the other horses, lol and since she was pregnant has turned into one of the boss mares!!
Thanks for that tip, and thankyou for adding the website. You will be one of the first to know!!
Karen




QUOTE (Guest @ Sep 4 2006, 07:42 AM)
Hi Karen,

My husband Ken and I found your battle to give Bubby the best chance in life such an amazing thing.  As you know we also had a wry nose mare who has just been sold to live in Tasmania.  She had a perfectly normal, and quite exceptional filly last season.  It is only the humans that find her "different", the other horses could care less, including the stallion that found her "very attractive" to produce such a stunning filly.

I have managed to get our website very high on google, but I think only out of luck.  We linked our website with some of the larger arabian websites, and this obviously helped quite a bit.  I can add her page to our website in our links page if you would like.

I can't wait to see your girls first foal.

Kindest Regards

Menna Hornsby
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gadonatella
Hi,

You can submit your website to Goggle through this link: http://www.google.com/submit_content.html

They review it and decide if they'll add it to their search engine.. Good luck

Your story was very heartwarming and your mare is lovely. Best of luck with your upcoming foal !!

Thank you for sharing,

Sandy
Cheryl L
I know of a mare with the same situation, but, not to the degree as Bubby. I will not give her name as I do not own her and have not asked for permission. It was not noticed until she was a yearling. First thing that was noticed that her eyes did not line up, one was higher than the other. Then as she matured, one side of her face had more of a dish than the other. Then you noticed that her teeth did not align properly and her muzzle curves to the left. She is able to drink and eat normally. The bonus is that she has produced to normal foals. One is an adult now and shows no sign of any deformity and is very beautiful, the other is a weanling, that shows no signs.
Thank you for sharing Bubby's story and I look forward to pictures of her foal.
Cheryl
KarenSh
Thankyou Sandy!
Much appreciated and easy to do as well!
I will let everyone know when she foals, feedback is very encouraging!!
thanks
karen



QUOTE (gadonatella @ Sep 4 2006, 01:46 PM)
Hi,

You can submit your website to Goggle through this link: http://www.google.com/submit_content.html

They review it and decide if they'll add it to their search engine.. Good luck

Your story was very heartwarming and your mare is lovely. Best of luck with your upcoming foal !!

Thank you for sharing,

Sandy
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KarenSh
Hi Cheryl,
Thanks for that info. How unusual for it to happen after birth. I wonder if its the same thing? Bubbys eyes have always lined up no problems there at all, but also makes sense from what Ken has explained. Are the eyes back to normal or still not lined up?
Fantastic the foals are fine as well, is very encouraging!
Did the owner take photos as this was happening?
thanks
karen




QUOTE (cmlshamal @ Sep 4 2006, 03:31 PM)
I know of a mare with the same situation, but, not to the degree as Bubby. I will not give her name as I do not own her and have not asked for permission.  It was not noticed until she was a yearling. First thing that was noticed that her eyes did not line up, one was higher than the other. Then as she matured, one side of her face had more of a dish than the other. Then you noticed that her teeth did not align properly and her muzzle curves to the left.  She is able to drink and eat normally. The bonus is that she has produced to normal foals. One is an adult now and shows no sign of any deformity and is very beautiful, the other is a weanling, that shows no signs.
Thank you for sharing Bubby's story and I look forward to pictures of her foal.
Cheryl
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gadonatella
Your very welcome Karen.. Hope it helps.

Regards,

Sandy
Cheryl L
The eyes do not line up at all. In fact the two halves of her face do not match. One side has a nice dish and the other side has an extreme dish. The extreme dish side is the side that goes to the left. They figure that down the road they will have to feed her a mash. Maybe it is not the same thing, although interesting non the less. There are not pictures.
Cheryl
KarenSh
Hi Cheryl,
It does sound different as the other wry noses havent had their eyes distorted like that, but it sounds like what has been described as well where the cartiliage has been deformed and is pulling one side of the face out of whack.
thankyou for your information, would love to have seen but totally understand.
Am glad she is having a good life and is breeding beautiful foals.
Thanks
Karen
djm
We have had one colt born with a wry nose. He couldn't nurse, so was taken from his mother the first day of life. He could drink from a bucket and eventually graze. He was placed in a loving home and lives a wonderful life with his owner. She loves him dearly.

He is one of the fortunate ones. Our vet's recommendation was to euthanize him the first day. I didn't think that was fair for him - he deserved a chance. It is thought that this is a malformation and not a genetic defect.

I think it's so admirable that your mare is being bred. I'm anxious to see the foal and hope all goes well.
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karen sh
Hi DJM,
Its brilliant that your colt is still doing so well without an operation and is so loved too!
thankyou for posting the photo too, i look forward to hearing more about him. It is encouraging for others that are out there that they can survive and lead useful lives, with or without operations!
THANKYOU for getting in touch too, it does mean a lot!
karen
KarenSh
I wanted to let you all know that Bubby has now foaled and her filly is just perfect!
She is the sweetest little girl, very dainty and lady like and loves her scratches and cuddles.
I am so thankful everything went well, and to get a filly to boot to carry on her lineage is just the icing on the cake.
More photos will be posted on her website as well as the stud one as well.
Thankyou everyone with your wonderful comments and support.
My daughter named her Faanya, which means free. She will now take over from her mother and do all the things that Bubby couldnt due to her nose.
Enjoy
Karen
Nadj al Nur
What a beautiful baby ! Congrats.Just goes to prove that you did absolutely the right thing for your mare.
Best
Cathy
TinaK
WONDERFUL news! smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
tiawarra
Hello Karen,

Thant is excellent news!! I am so pleased everything turned out so well. Not certain when Kathy & I will be over to visit, have to earn some $$ after the Egypt trip!! It may be January or Feb. Anyway I look forward to seeing all the bubs then!!

Take care & thanks for sending pics of the babies as they arrive, Amir is doing a grand job for you!! All the best..........Debbie
Erna Kornelis
What a moving story!
Robert 1
HI KAREN,
YES, THIS IS A WONDERFUL STORY WITH A HAPPY ENDING AND IF ANYONE POSSIBLE COULD HAVE DONE THIS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN YOU, KAREN YOU TRULY ARE A SPECIAL PERSON AND WHAT A BLESSING YOU AND YOUR HORSES ARE FOR EACH OTHER. biggrin.gif
WHAT A BEAUTIFUL FOAL, IT GOES TO PROVE THE RESILIENCE OF THE ARABIAN HORSE. wink.gif wink.gif


ROBERT,
ECHO HILL ARABIANS
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rhoni
What great news, very pleased and happy for you and Bubby! What a nice filly too.
Allison of Talaria
Dear Karen,

Not all the saints live in heaven....some walk amongst us everyday, like you.

Congratulations on a lovely lovely filly--and may she bring you all the happiness you deserve as you gave her dam the incredible gift of the fullest life she could ever have!

I salute you.

Allison of Talaria
Cheryl L
Karen,
What a beautiful filly, Congratulations.
Cheryl
KarenSh
QUOTE (tiawarra @ Dec 5 2006, 10:02 AM)
Hello Karen,

Thant is excellent news!! I am so pleased everything turned out so well. Not certain when Kathy & I will be over to visit, have to earn some $$ after the Egypt trip!! It may be January or Feb. Anyway I look forward to seeing all the bubs then!!

Take care & thanks for sending pics of the babies as they arrive, Amir is doing a grand job for you!!  All the best..........Debbie
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Hi Debbie,
phew, so am I! yes bragger! that will be fine, but you have to bring me a straight mare back from egypt! Look forward to your visit and cant wait for you both to meet the foals. Amir is doing an amazing job, he is such a good boy!
Have a good xmas.
Karen
KarenSh
QUOTE (Erna Kornelis @ Dec 5 2006, 01:37 PM)
What a moving story!
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Thankyou Erna,
She was an amazing spirit right from the first moment of being born, there was no resting and looking around for her, it was lets get up and get going!
thanks for taking the time to read her story.
Karen
KarenSh
QUOTE (Robert 1 @ Dec 5 2006, 01:58 PM)
HI KAREN,
YES, THIS IS A WONDERFUL STORY WITH A HAPPY ENDING AND IF ANYONE POSSIBLE COULD HAVE DONE THIS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN YOU, KAREN YOU TRULY ARE A SPECIAL PERSON AND WHAT A BLESSING YOU AND YOUR HORSES ARE FOR EACH OTHER. biggrin.gif
WHAT A BEAUTIFUL FOAL, IT GOES TO PROVE THE RESILIENCE OF THE ARABIAN HORSE. wink.gif  wink.gif
ROBERT,
ECHO HILL ARABIANS
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You are a charmer Robert!
Thankyou, they are both pretty incredible, its just so lovely looking out into the paddock to see them together, to know what might not have been had we not had the technology and expertise of the vets nowadays. Happy endings are so nice!
thanks again!
Karen
KarenSh
QUOTE (rhoni @ Dec 5 2006, 02:53 PM)
What great news, very pleased and happy for you and Bubby! What a nice filly too.
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Thankyou Rhoni!!
She is a little angel, so dainty is the word for her, lol
Karen
KarenSh
QUOTE (Allison of Talaria @ Dec 6 2006, 01:27 AM)
Dear Karen,

Not all the saints live in heaven....some walk amongst us everyday, like you.

Congratulations on a lovely lovely filly--and may she bring you all the happiness you deserve as you gave her dam the incredible gift of the fullest life she could ever have! 

I salute you.

Allison of Talaria
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Each and every horse i precious to me, and she wouldnt have been here had i not done the breeding so was my responsibility to do the right thing, as soon as the vet told me I could breed and ride her then it was easy to go ahead.
I pretty much think she will, have got lots of plans for this precious little girl!!
thankyou so much once again
Karen
KarenSh
QUOTE (cmlshamal @ Dec 6 2006, 01:42 AM)
Karen,
What a beautiful filly, Congratulations.
Cheryl
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Thankyou Cheryl!!
Karen
tiawarra
Hello Karen,

I wish I could bring us both SE mares from Egypt.............but they wouldn't fit in my luggage!! Besides I had enough trouble bringing my saddle home!! But that's another story!

Hope about I just bring my pics with me & you can choose which one you would like if it were possible to have any one you see??? It's always nice to daydream!!

take care & see you next year!!...................Debbie
Riverside Arabians
A very moving story! Thank you for sharing it!
Congratulations on your new filly. Bubby certainly has returned your goodness and kindness to her in spades.
Kristen
KarenSh
QUOTE (Riverside Arabians @ Dec 7 2006, 04:48 AM)
A very moving story! Thank you for sharing it!
Congratulations on your new filly. Bubby certainly has returned your goodness and kindness to her in spades.
Kristen
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She sure has Kristen, thankyou!
Karen
HartzArabians
You already know I think she is lovely but congratulations again. She is Bubby's way of saying thank you!!
KarenSh
QUOTE (HartzArabians @ Dec 8 2006, 12:12 AM)
You already know I think she is lovely but congratulations again.  She is Bubby's way of saying thank you!!
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Thankyou Alisha, that is a lovely way of looking at it!
Karen
sarri
QUOTE (KarenSh @ Sep 4 2006, 03:08 AM)
Hi All,
A few years ago I had a foal born with what is termed 'wry nose'.
Another lady this season was referred to me when she was presented with a colt foal with the same condition and it has prompted me to re do Bubbys website to hopefully provide some knowlege of what this condition is and the stages of recovery after an operation.
My mare was quite severe with her front teeth 90 degrees vertical to the right side of her face so she couldnt drink by herself and would not have been able to survive on her own, she would have slowly starved to death.
There is virtually no information on this condition as most of the foals are put down due to the cost of the operation and amount of work involved and as its quite a rare condition the cost of research hasnt been warranted.
I would love to hear from other people who have had foals like Bubby and also would like to ask them a few questions privately for my own research.
Through making this public on a couple of Australian yahoo groups I have found another mare who didnt need an operation and has foaled a beautiful filly, which gives me a lot of encouragement, as Bubby is in foal to my Amir.

So here is Bubby and her journey from birth to now.

Karen

nb: many people will not understand how and why I had to do my best for Bubby, mostly when it came to spending many thousands of dollars.  I am a very, very small breeder and this foal would not have been born without my choosing to mate these 2 horses, and as soon as I knew she would be able to be used as a riding horse and a breeder I had to give her a chance to survive.
If anyone knows how to get this website onto google or other search engines i would be most appreciative.
www.freewebs.com/spfaridah
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Just read Bubby's story and saw pics of her and her first baby wow you are speccial. BARB
Hilal
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