Alan C.
Aug 21 2003, 01:39 PM
Does anybody ever heard about the dispersal sale of Haras Carol (Brazil)?
Guest_Fran
Aug 21 2003, 07:07 PM
wow, hadn't heard.
hlsmaripa
Aug 21 2003, 07:24 PM
If you wish to know more on the
Dreams Auction, this itīs the link. There will be very good horses, like for example a Jamillīs daugther, AF Vita.
I believe that itīs an annual sale. I donīt believe that itīs a complete liquidation.
Somebody knows something on the stallion Bernini?
Best Regards,
Marianella
Guest_mckulley1
Aug 22 2003, 12:53 AM
i've been receiving emails over the last two to three weeks of their sale....i believe they termed it as a dispersal sale.
Murilo Kammer
Aug 22 2003, 01:26 PM
It will be in fact a dispersal sale. All of Ailton Braga's horses will be sold, with the exception of a few mares that are too old or have reproductive or health problems and a couple that Ailton is keeping for himself. The stallions are not going to be auctioned, possibly sold by private treaty, Bernini included.
Allan C.
Aug 22 2003, 02:10 PM
Ailton always bred very good horses and owned some beutiful ones as Perlie Mae, Mystyk Image, among others.
I will try to access the link. Thanks.
Ralph
Aug 22 2003, 03:20 PM
The Jamilll daughter is NOT AF Vita. It is AF FA Halima (out of *Bint Hamda Halima [*Ansata Ibn Halima x *JKB Hamda {YOSREIA TAIL FEMALE}). AF Vita has Egyptian lines in her pedigree but she is not a straight Egyptian mare.AF VitaAF Fa Halima
StarVision
Aug 22 2003, 03:31 PM
Wow! I'm actually very surprised to hear about this. Should be a great opportunity for people to aquire some great stock though. I've always admired these horses and this program.
Natalie
hlsmaripa
Aug 22 2003, 08:17 PM
Dear Ralph,
You are right! I was very anxious with the news and I mistake

the names of the mares.
Iīm thinking to go to Dreams Auction, but we have a event (Expo Prado 2003).
Thanks!
Take Care,
Marianella
Ralph
Aug 22 2003, 09:01 PM
You are excused Marianella...just this one time or its into the pokey with you!

I am very grateful for your enthusiasm.
P. A. Arabians
Aug 22 2003, 10:49 PM
It was a big surprise for me to know about this dispersal sale. I noticed Mr. Ailton Braga divorced last year but I tought they had an agreement to split the horses. I admire a lot Giorgio Carol, the chestnut stallion included on the sale. He trots a lot and uses his long neck when movement. For me is one of the best JK Amadeus sons if not the best.
P. Armagnani
Allan C.
Aug 24 2003, 11:25 PM
I opened the sale page.
How far is Avare from Sao Paulo?
Renato Degli
Aug 25 2003, 04:52 PM
Avare is around 2 hours driving from Sao Paulo. The city has nice hotels and the auction will happen during the International Show of Avare (the second most important show in Brazil) and the Brazilian BreedersīCup.
P.A. Arabians
Aug 26 2003, 08:56 PM
I just received the video of the sale. There are some very nice mares, with a lot of type, like CN Neville and AF Fa Halima.
P. Armagnani
hlsmaripa
Aug 26 2003, 11:04 PM
QUOTE (P.A. Arabians @ Aug 26 2003, 06:56 PM)
I just received the video of the sale. There are some very nice mares, with a lot of type, like CN Neville and AF Fa Halima.
P. Armagnani
What luck! I did

not receive the video!!
P.A. Arabians
Aug 27 2003, 09:24 PM
QUOTE (hlsmaripa @ Aug 27 2003, 12:04 AM)
QUOTE (P.A. Arabians @ Aug 26 2003, 06:56 PM)
I just received the video of the sale. There are some very nice mares, with a lot of type, like CN Neville and AF Fa Halima.
P. Armagnani
What luck! I did

not receive the video!!
Marianella, there is a link for video at the webpage.
P. Armagnani
hlsmaripa
Aug 28 2003, 01:38 AM
Dear P. Armagnani,
Thanks
Best Regards,
Marianella
Jaripo
Aug 30 2003, 04:38 AM
Chelsea K is for me, by far, the best lot. Her mother was a beautiful mare (3 times National Champion in Brazil).
José Arnaldo Pontes
jaripo
Sep 1 2003, 05:54 PM
For those who are looking for a future stallion: Kahn Carol. He is very typey. His mother (Kalina) was exported to Middle East.
You can see him at www.dreamsauction.com.br
José Arnaldo Pontes
H. B. Saldiva
Sep 4 2003, 12:16 AM
For those who are wanting to know more about the Jamilll daughter at the sale: AF Fa Halima is in a very good shape. I saw her last Friday. She produced until now 8 foals (7 fillies and one colt) registered. The last one was born in Oct. 2001. She was not bred since then due the divorce process of the owners.
Helio
daleel
Sep 4 2003, 01:30 PM
Hi all,
I'm searching where reside *Juliano by the Minstril and his dam Delta Venus....
Can someone help me ???
Thanks in advance
greetings
Daleel
Murilo Kammer
Sep 4 2003, 03:01 PM
Juliano stands at Haras Fortaleza, owned by Dr. Faria. His dam Delta Venus also belongs to Dr. Faria but lives at Arabians Ltd. in the US.
daleel
Sep 4 2003, 03:03 PM
Hi Mr Kammer,
thank you very much ....is it possible to have some pictures posted here?
best regards
Daleel
Murilo Kammer
Sep 4 2003, 03:16 PM
I am sorry, but I do not have any pictures of Juliano or Delta Venus.
Guest_Suzanne
Sep 6 2003, 01:02 AM
Dear Mr Krammer, Do you know what happened to fayd el jamaal (Ali Jamaal x fanfaire c)?
I heard that he was very nice and was going to Gallun's to be show but then heard nothing.
Thanks. Suzanne.
Guest_mckulley1
Sep 6 2003, 03:52 AM
In regards to auctions, did you see that the midcrest.com auction is up and going. They have two dtrs of the super great producing mare, Cometara up for sale! I was surprised!
Paulo R.
Sep 8 2003, 04:36 PM
Suzanne,
Fayd El Jamaal is now in Argentina. Please let me know if you need more information about him.
Paulo R.
daleel
Sep 10 2003, 10:02 AM
Hi all,
I have a question for our friends from south-america :
Af Fa Halima
Who is the new owner of this mare after this auction????
Thanks in advance
Greetings
Daleel
Murilo Kammer
Sep 10 2003, 01:40 PM
AF Fa Halima did not sell. There were no bids at her reserve price (I am nor sure it was US $ 5,000 or 10,000) and she went back to Haras Carol.
daleel
Sep 10 2003, 02:17 PM
Hi Mr Kammer,
Thank you very much for your reply .
best regards
Daleel
hlsmaripa
Sep 10 2003, 08:22 PM
QUOTE (daleel @ Sep 4 2003, 11:30 AM)
Hi all,
I'm searching where reside *Juliano by the Minstril and his dam Delta Venus....
Can someone help me ???
Dear Daleel,
You see in the topic:
Alaa El Din Tail Female...
Best Wishes,
Marianella
sarri
Aug 21 2008, 08:52 PM
ok this is real confusing cause Ailton has not despersed his herd aas i email from time to time with Elaine his wife?
if this is recent why then dates say 2003 ??? confused in Canada.
Verena1
Aug 21 2008, 09:50 PM
it's not possible to open the site:
www.dreamsauction.com.br
did anyone another adress?
sarri
Aug 21 2008, 10:00 PM
http://www.ailtonelainearabians.com/index.htm here's a link to website nowhere on there it is said that there is a diispersal sale going on hmmm
Ralph
Aug 22 2008, 01:27 AM
Sarri and Verena:
This discussion is 5 years old today, August 21, At the time that the discussion was started, there was a sale going on at Haras Carol. but not now
Ralph
Arabian Stud Europe
Aug 24 2008, 08:30 AM
Wow! I love their horses!

Talitha
surprisearabians
Aug 24 2008, 01:19 PM
beautiful
Razgold
Aug 24 2008, 02:08 PM
QUOTE (hlsmaripa @ Aug 21 2003, 08:24 PM)
If you wish to know more on the
Dreams Auction, this itīs the link. There will be very good horses, like for example a Jamillīs daugther, AF Vita.
I believe that itīs an annual sale. I donīt believe that itīs a complete liquidation.
Somebody knows something on the stallion Bernini?
Best Regards,
Marianella
This link doesn't work.
Sue.
Oops sorry just found the other one. Me bad.
Mario Braga
Aug 25 2008, 10:14 PM
Bernini Carol is still with Ailton Braga, he is by Parys el Jamaal and out of a Bey Shah daughter.
Ailton did disperse most of his herd some years ago, but heīs breeding again as far as I know.
Juliano belongs to Haras Fortaleza in São Paulo Brazil ( Mr. Aloysio Faria ) as well as his maternal brother Nesperado ( by Thee Desperado). Iīm not sure whether or not Delta Venus and which of her offspring are still alive.
sarri
Aug 26 2008, 11:50 PM
TY Ralph
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