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oli
TUHOTMOS (El Sareei x Moniet El Nefous) 27 years old at Erich Hagenlocher´s "El Hilal"- Farm.
Tuhotmos-Video

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corbinmk
Thanks for providing the video! Lovely stallion!
Guest_Ulrike
I think it is wonderful to see the old patriarch again on video and it is very nice from Oli to provide this opportunity. However I can imagine that those who never saw Tuhotmos must come to incorrect conclusions about his conformation and about his ability to move! This horse on the video has little in common with the proud and regal horse I remember that was the true Tuhotmos with lots of style and animation. I know horses grow old but this video shows him not in a good phase of his life and that's a pity. sad.gif
Guest_oli
@ Ulrike
I think it´s normal that a 27 years old horse can not move like a young horse. Nevertheless I hope the video is interesting for some people. smile.gif
Guest_Ulrike
Yes, I totally understand your point ov view and as I said before I think it's fantastic to see him there. However, to see old horses on the screen who looked not their best is a bit sad. Would be wonderful to also have a video of him in younger years to compare.
rylolin
Hello,

I couldn't get either one of these links to play the video of Tuhotmos. Does anyone have advice for this problem? Thank you, Linda wink.gif
Guest_Azabat
Ich kann leider das Video nicht öffnen, macht sich einfach nicht auf. Dafür sind die Fotos von Blue Velvet wunderschön - aber bei dem Fotomodell kein Wunder! Super schöne Stute!!!!

Schönen Gruß,
Manuela
Guest_oli
die Anzeige im T-Online Media-Maker funktioniert vermutlich nur mit ISDN oder DSL-Anschluß. Bei mir klappts zu Hause und im Büro wunderbar. Bei langsameren Verbindungen dürfte es Schwierigkeiten geben. Über den direkten Link ( http://www.el-hilal.com/tuhotmos-video.MPG ) sollte es aber keine Schwierigkeiten geben.
Gruß
Oli
Gazal
I would love to see this video!

Is there anyone who still has a copy to share?


Please.... laugh.gif
morafic al lahab
Hey,

I cannot see the video either... Would love to see it... Wanted to see him in a video a long time ago but both links are not working... Anyone have an idea why???

Cheers
Ehab
Gazal
QUOTE (morafic al lahab @ Feb 25 2008, 01:39 PM)
Hey,

I cannot see the video either... Would love to see it... Wanted to see him in a video a long time ago but both links are not working... Anyone have an idea why???

Cheers
Ehab
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The main pages do not longer exist.
But I hope that someone saved a copy of the video on his PC....
morafic al lahab
Hopefully... I really would love to watch it... Tuhotmos is one of my Favorites...
Gazal
QUOTE (morafic al lahab @ Feb 25 2008, 02:11 PM)
Hopefully... I really would love to watch it... Tuhotmos is one of my Favorites...
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He was awesome... tongue.gif
Are there any videos of him available anyway? I have never heard of one - this was the first time.
Carol Cooper-Hall
QUOTE (morafic al lahab @ Feb 25 2008, 08:39 AM)
Hey,

I cannot see the video either... Would love to see it... Wanted to see him in a video a long time ago but both links are not working... Anyone have an idea why???

Cheers
Ehab
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I wasn't able to view the video either but thought it was just me, Ehab!! wink.gif
Cheers,
Carol
Imke79
Oh, I would LOVE to see this one, too!

I have sent an email to Oli some time ago and asked him for a copy. He wanted to have a look for it... sems like he's quite busy at the moment?! sad.gif
Carol Cooper-Hall
Until we are able to view this video sad.gif I thought I would share the following photos of this MAGNIFICENT stallion, Tuhotmos, with you all!! wub.gif wub.gif
Cheers,
Carol

PHOTOS FROM SE.com:
1st by Polly Knoll
2nd by EAO


PHOTOS FROM Fotki:
3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th - photographers unknown
Imke79
QUOTE (Carol Cooper-Hall @ Feb 26 2008, 04:05 PM)
Until we are able to view this video  sad.gif  I thought I would share the following photos of this MAGNIFICENT stallion, Tuhotmos, with you all!! wub.gif  wub.gif
Cheers,
Carol


A wonderful idea!
What about this one:

Click to view attachment

Is this Tuhotmos, too? The photo was taken by Robert Vavra - and I LOVE it!!!
Carol Cooper-Hall
QUOTE (Imke79 @ Feb 26 2008, 11:22 AM)
A wonderful idea!
What about this one:

Click to view attachment

Is this Tuhotmos, too? The photo was taken by Robert Vavra - and I LOVE it!!!
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I honestly don't know if that is "Tuhotmos" in the photo or not but it is really unique!! wub.gif wub.gif
Cheers,
Carol
peter
Hi Carol,

This is absolutely Tut- for sure !!

Cheers,

Peter

Ps..I can't open the link either... sad.gif
Gazal
QUOTE (peter @ Feb 26 2008, 05:31 PM)
Hi Carol,

This is absolutely Tut- for sure !!

Cheers,

Peter

Ps..I can't open the link either... sad.gif
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This photo is AWESOME!
Unfortunately it is not available as a poster... sad.gif
I would be the first to order it.
Unbelievable!
Carol Cooper-Hall
QUOTE (Imke79 @ Feb 26 2008, 11:22 AM)
A wonderful idea!
What about this one:

Click to view attachment

Is this Tuhotmos, too? The photo was taken by Robert Vavra - and I LOVE it!!!
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QUOTE (peter @ Feb 26 2008, 12:31 PM)
Hi Carol,

This is absolutely Tut- for sure !!

Cheers,

Peter

Ps..I can't open the link either... sad.gif
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THANKS so much for that info, Peter! smile.gif
Cheers,
Carol

QUOTE (Gazal @ Feb 26 2008, 01:17 PM)
This photo is AWESOME!
Unfortunately it is not available as a poster...  sad.gif
I would be the first to order it.
Unbelievable!
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Hello René
Just so you'll know it was our SE.com member "Imke79" (above) who posted the photo of Tuhotmos by Robert Vavra!! wink.gif It is a shame that that image is no longer available as it's quite unique!! smile.gif
Cheers,
Carol
LoLoXLC
I have that video on my pc. But I am really not sure if I'm allowed to post it here, it's certainly copyright protected.

Perhaps Oliver can help and say if I'm allowed to load it up here.
Gazal
QUOTE (LoLoXLC @ Feb 26 2008, 06:28 PM)
I have that video on my pc. But I am really not sure if I'm allowed to post it here, it's certainly copyright protected.

Perhaps Oliver can help and say if I'm allowed to load it up here.
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Oh - wow! Great news!!
Do you know who made the video? Was it EH himself?
morafic al lahab
Hey,

Is this the actual size of the photo???
I sent a PM to Oli too sad.gif but it seems that he is busy like you said Imke79, he didn't even reply... sad.gif

Ehab
Imke79
QUOTE (Carol Cooper-Hall @ Feb 26 2008, 06:24 PM)
Hello René
Just so you'll know it was our SE.com member "Imke79" (above) who posted the photo of Tuhotmos by Robert Vavra!! wink.gif It is a shame that that image is no longer available as it's quite unique!! smile.gif
Cheers,
Carol
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Hello Carol!

Well, it is available - but not as a poster. I have asked Robert Vavra's staff just two months ago and they told me that you may buy the rights. So - theoretically - you may print it, of course. But I don't know how much this would be.
dry.gif

Regards

Imke
morafic al lahab
Heeey,

Great news... I will send Oliver a PM and ask him about it... smile.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif

Cheers
Ehab
Carol Cooper-Hall
QUOTE (Imke79 @ Feb 26 2008, 01:36 PM)
Hello Carol!

Well, it is available - but not as a poster. I have asked Robert Vavra's staff just two months ago and they told me that you may buy the rights. So - theoretically - you may print it, of course. But I don't know how much this would be.
dry.gif

Regards

Imke
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THANKS so much for that info, Imke!! wink.gif
Carol
Carol Cooper-Hall
QUOTE (morafic al lahab @ Feb 26 2008, 01:49 PM)
Heeey,

Great news... I will send Oliver a PM and ask him about it... smile.gif  biggrin.gif  laugh.gif

Cheers
Ehab
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Good for you, Ehab!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Cheers,
Carol
Marhei
QUOTE (Carol Cooper-Hall @ Feb 26 2008, 04:05 PM)
Until we are able to view this video  sad.gif  I thought I would share the following photos of this MAGNIFICENT stallion, Tuhotmos, with you all!! wub.gif  wub.gif
Cheers,
Carol

PHOTOS FROM SE.com:
1st by Polly Knoll
2nd by EAO


PHOTOS FROM Fotki:
3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th - photographers unknown
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Wowww Tuhotmos my Mare Shalimar have Tuhotmos in Her pedigree smile.gif smile.gif

Greeting
Susanne
Fotos Privat
LoLoXLC
QUOTE (Gazal @ Feb 26 2008, 07:32 PM)
Oh - wow! Great news!!
Do you know who made the video? Was it EH himself?
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Sorry, don't know. Tuhotmos was very old in that video. If he was his last owner he probably did it himself.
LoLoXLC
QUOTE (morafic al lahab @ Feb 26 2008, 07:36 PM)
I sent a PM to Oli too sad.gif but it seems that he is busy like you said Imke79, he didn't even reply... sad.gif

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I meant the other Olilver (Wibihal) ;-) the owner of this forum. But perhaps Oli can help, too.
morafic al lahab
Yeah, I know... The PM I sent to Oli was 2 days ago asking if he still have the video smile.gif and now I just sent one to Oliver Wibihal to ask for his permission... smile.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif

Cheers
Ehab
tiawarra
Hello Everyone,

I'm hoping that this one is a bit larger size of that amazing pic of Tut, a horse I admired from thousands of miles away!

All the best............Debbie

So sorry, it's the same size sad.gif
oli
QUOTE (LoLoXLC @ Feb 26 2008, 06:28 PM)
I have that video on my pc. But I am really not sure if I'm allowed to post it here, it's certainly copyright protected.

Perhaps Oliver can help and say if I'm allowed to load it up here.
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I am very sorry I deleted that video-file from my computer and have it only on an old video tape (and no video player sad.gif ).

Of course you can post this video here. It´s made by Erich Hagenlocher´s wife Michaela.

Please consider that Tuhotmos is at very high age (I think 27 years old) and do not look as he does in younger years.

Oli
diane
QUOTE
RE: Tuhotmos - The Icon, Part I"
Posted by Caryn Rogosky (Guest) on 08-Apr-01 at 06:22 PM
Hi Stephanie,
Kelly, I'm not sure what specific figures you may be referring to (perhaps a specific genepool?) but actually *Tuhotmos sired over 400 foals, 395 registered with AHRA between 1968 and 1989. The majority of these, however, were not Straight Egyptian. The Arabian Horse World Quarterly/Summer 2000, ran an article by Mary Jane Parkinson called "Egyptian Sires of Significance". *Tuhotmos was listed as one of those sires, here are some specifications: Bred by EAO, born 1962. He sired 6 National winners, 2 Championships in Performace, 1 Reserve Championship in Performance, 11 Top Tens (1 Halter, 10 Performance). Of his grandget, there have been (so far) 9 National winners (5 were sired by *Tuhotmos sons, 4 were out of *Tuhotmos daughters)Additional wins included 13 Top Tens (2 Halter, 11 Performance).
As you can see, this was a horse who was much more than just a pretty face -- he could move and he could perform, a characteristic he passed on with great consistency. His descendants have proven themselves in everything from Dressage to Reining and Cutting.
Because I want to do him justice, there is much I'd like to say about *Tuhotmos and his legacy. Because it will be lengthy, I hope you won't mind if I post it in parts.
Part I - *Tuhotmos,The Icon.

*Tuhotmos himself was never shown, he was not imported to the USA until he was 12 years old. Prior to that, he had been the beloved leading sire at the EAO, proundly leading the parades through the streets of Cairo. Having become entirely enchanted by him during a stay in Egypt in 1972, Rick Heber (then U.S. consultant to the Egyptian Ministry of Health and Social Affairs), approached the EAO regarding purchasing *Tuhotmos. Only as a result of their gatitude for the assistance Mr. Heber had provided to the Egyptian government in creating educational programs for their disabled children, did the EAO agree to allow *Tuhotmos to leave the country.
The mystique of *Tuhotmos was/is just that...an intangible allure that went beyond his extraordinary physical beauty. My own attraction to him was instantaneous and only grew as I learned more about this unique little masterpiece. When I decided to breed Egyptian Arabians, I recognized that the first thing I needed to do was to establish a personal prototype, a detailed imagine in my mind's eye of what I wanted to produce in flesh and bone -- a source of inspiration. After studying thousands and thousands of photographs of spectacular looking Egyptian Arabians, I came upon the (now famous) Polly Knoll photo of *Tuhotmos. As an artist, my eye searches for balance and harmony yet longs for unusual details. I found that special blend in the face of *Tuhotmos. Those soft, luminous eyes, framed with the tiniest of expression lines, transformed him into something very human, very ancient, very wise. The dry sculpting of that face was almost painfully exquisite, sharp tear bones pressing hard against the silkiest dark skin, huge nostrils flaring wide against the tiniest of muzzles -- all brought forth on a strong but graceful arch, pushing forward like a perfect stem, presenting that head as a rare and perfect rose.
My physical attraction to *Tuhotmos was like falling in love, it was almost overwhelming, but choosing an icon upon which I could focus an entire breeding program would require more study. I found and read everything I could on *Tuhotmos. The experiences expressed by each and every person who had ever known him...handled him, painted him, photographed him, fed him or touched him in any way, were universal in their emotional depth. The soul which was only glimpsed in those eyes, was known fully by his presence. Here is a passage taken from the article written by Ann Heber in 1992, which provides some insight into the sensitivity and kindness of this horse: "Since I would be the attendant for *Tuhotmos on the plane and I had all this extra time aiting for the arrangements, I decided to spend time at the EAO to study the horses and to get to know *Tuhotmos. One day I saw a boy riding a lovely bay horse. I really didn't pay much attention, but after the morning tea and greeting, they brought the same horse over for me to ride. Although I was five months pregnant, I hopped on *Tuhotmos for my first lesson. I wondered why the Arab boy was doubling over with laughter. I figured it was my present shape. I had a great ride, although with my lack of Arabic, I never did figure out how to cue *Tuhotmos, and on one occasion almost jumped a hedge (unintended) with him when he spotted a mare. The next day I met Danni Barbari for lunch (we had become close friends) and told her how I was going to ride *Tuhotmos every morning until we could leave Egypt together. She gasped and said, "Your rode *Tuhotmos?" She then old me the EAO had no trainers for saddle work but did not want to tell me as I was an American. The only time *Tuhotmos had been ridden was in a parade and he really had never been trained. The young Arab boy had trained *Tuhotmos the morning I rode him and his laghter was in anticipation of the rodeo". The gentle nature of *Tuhotmos was legendary, as he became known in the USA as a "thread horse" -- one who could be controlled by no more than a thread. I would find out later, how that trait was gifted from *Tuhotmos to his children, and to his grandchildren.
Caryn Rogosky
Windkist Manor Arabians
________________________________________
"RE: Tuhotmos -Part ll: Strong Impressions "
Posted by Caryn Rogosky (Guest) on 09-Apr-01 at 01:24 PM
*Tuhotmos made a very strong impression on everyone who saw him. I've heard people say that while he wasn't perfect, it was difficult to focus on the small flaws because the whole package was so breathtaking. He had what Ann Heber described as a sort of "electrical field" around him, which spellbound viewers. It was said that he could make "the finest mare look coarse and the mightiest stallion subdued". *Tuhotmos was the inspiration for many an artist, and his following was impressive. Karen Kasper who sculpted him several times (one of her beautiful bronzes of him sits in my living room) said this, "*Tuhotmos captivated me more than any horse I have ever known...a vision of ethereal beauty like the rarest antiquity I could imagine". The famous photographer, Robert Vavra, used *Tuhotmos in his book "Equus Reigned". He said, "*Tuhotmos should be placed in a glass case and put on exhibit at fine art galleries so the great connoisseurs of the world can experience his beauty".
He was a small horse, I've heard variations of his height but none that exceed 14-2hh. But then again, he was born and grew up in Egypt, where the environment and nutrition were not known to encourage optimum growth. *Ansata Ibn Halima was about the same size, as were other extraordinary horses of that period. But he thought he was huge, and he convinced others of it as well. He was known for his puffed-up display, tail flying, neck held high and arched. He would never "tighten up" to a stallion, it was simply beneath him -- his self esteem was too high to consider such a thing! He was king and he knew it. He was a beautiful mover, very light on his feet with a strong, free flowing extended trot. As wild a sprit as he exhibited, he was always completely under control. It may be that while he left Egypt, Egypt never left him. Perhaps that explains the frequent look of deep consternation observed in those wise, ancient eyes. He died at the age of 29, he was breeding mares right up until the end. I keep a piece of his tail hair in a very safe place, a cherished gift from Jody Cruz who had him in his final days. I have seen that "*Tuhotmos gaze" many times over the past 12 years, through his sons and daughters that I live with.
Caryn Rogosky

sad.gif couldn't find the direct link ... may have been before the se.com crash.

Would like to see the video if someone has a working link smile.gif thanks.
wyndski
I have a Tuhotmos son, so I would also be interested in seeing it.
LoLoXLC
QUOTE (oli @ Feb 26 2008, 10:53 PM)
Of course you can post this video here. It´s made by Erich Hagenlocher´s wife Michaela.

Oli
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I am not sure if I can upload an mpg file here.

Can someone please try if this download link works for you? It could be that it only works for me. It's quite a large file so loading might take some time.

Please let me know if it doesn't work and I'll try something else.
Gazal
QUOTE (LoLoXLC @ Feb 27 2008, 06:10 PM)
I am not sure if I can upload an mpg file here.

Can someone please try if this download link works for you? It could be that it only works for me. It's quite a large file so loading might take some time.

Please let me know if it doesn't work and I'll try something else.
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Hello LoLoXLC!

I can't open it. Whenever I try it, I am linked to the following site:

Click to view attachment
LoLoXLC
Too bad :-(

I've tried to upload the video here but it won't let me. Does anyone have an idea what else I might do?
morafic al lahab
Hey,

You can post it on youtube... It's the easiest way... smile.gif

Cheers
Ehab
Marty Counts
Those of you who love Tuhotmos will be happy to know that his last daughter, Briele, who is out of a TheEgyptianPrince daughter, just this week gave birth to a colt via embryo transfer sired by Kenz Noor. She has another foal due in June sired by Simeon Shai.

Marty Counts
sakebu
YouTube works great - thanks so much! I've recetly been reading about him and loving him!
LoLoXLC
There you go:

Tuhotmos video
oli
QUOTE (Marty Counts @ Feb 27 2008, 09:25 PM)
Those of you who love Tuhotmos will be happy to know that his last daughter, Briele, who is out of a TheEgyptianPrince daughter, just this week gave birth to a colt via embryo transfer sired by Kenz Noor.  She has another foal due in June sired by Simeon Shai.

Marty Counts
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I am sure his last daughter is EH Bint Tuhotmos (x Amira by Gharib) and his last son EH Ibn Tuhotmos (x EH Bahiga by Al Nowasy). Both were exported to Germany.
Billy W
Datasource shows.....EH Bint Tuhotmos being born April 1989...

Briele (Shammama -The Egyptian Prince x *Bint Shaams) being born May 1989
morafic al lahab
Thank you sooo much... biggrin.gif

I really enjoyed watching him moving... I really didn't expect this... Even if he is old, he looked good in this video for a 27 year old smile.gif And the news about his daughter giving birth is nice...

Thanks again...

Cheers
Ehab
morafic al lahab
Here is the latest video of his daughter Tuhotmah (*Tuhotmos x Dahma Din by *Fakher El Din)... She is amazing... smile.gif wub.gif biggrin.gif

Cheers
Ehab
karin
thanks a lot for sharing this..my young stallion is from tuhotmos.......some time ago.....I see some ressemblance.....
wyndski
Thank You for the video! smile.gif I have a lot of pictures and info but I have never seen a video of him. He looks good for being 27. You can tell he is arthritic, but you would expect that at his age. I am going to be breeding my *Tuhotmos son (by *Falkher El Din daughter) this year to my *El Shaklan daughter. They were both born in "86", so please cross your fingers and toes for me. laugh.gif
cate
What a lovely and interesting thread.

I have a 6 year old stallion with Tuhotmos in his dams line.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ahanu2

The descriptions of Tuhotmos so describe my stallion Ahanu who I have only had since September.

I cant remember everything in the article by Caryn Rogosky in Post 35 posted by Diane, but he stands with his lovely arched neck in a very majestic way just looking and watching...the "Tuhotmos gaze" definitely. A look that says "I am king". Huge tear bones, lovely big kind eyes and huge movement.

He is not in very good condition at the moment, but is improving and muscling up, so the photo of him is not a good one, perhaps I shouldnt post it, but I will so just remember he is quite thin and no topline etc.
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