Hallo Forum, Oliver & Aleksi,

mal wieder 'ne Foto-Anfrage von mir:

Gibt es eigentlich von Ghazala (Ghazal x Hanan) nur das eine Ganzkörperfoto, daß auch im Portrait abgebildet ist? Hat vielleicht jemand noch weitere Fotos?

Oliver hat mal ein Video von ihr gemacht, zwar nur auf der Stallgasse aber immerhin. Rik van Lent hat bestimmt einen ganzen Stapel Körperbilder von ihr. Am besten dort mal anchfragen.

Dear Dr. Wigger,

I obtained these photos of Ghazala. I hope that they are to him useful.

Ghazala
Ghazal x Hanan


Straight Egyptian grey mare out of the Elite Mare Hanan born in 1973.
12 foals, among them Aisha (by Ansata Halim Shah), Ibn Nejdy (by Nejdy), Adnan (by Salaa el Dine)
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Ägyptische Schimmelstute a.d. Elitestute Hanan, geboren 1973.
12 Fohlen: darunter Aisha (v. Ansata Halim Shah), Ibn Nejdy (v. Nejdy), Adnan (v. Salaa el Dine)




Best Regards,

Marianella

Dear Dr. Wigger,

Sorry mistakes to me of Ghazala. I will look for its Ghazala in my archives.

Dear Dr. Wigger,

Here it can find some photos and a very interesting article.

Ghazala

Best Regards,

Marianella

Thank you, Marianella. I know the body shot of her in this article and I wonder if there are more body shots somewhere? She was one of or even THE most beautiful mare(s) on the Katharinenhof ever. There must be more photos of her?

Hab Ihre Frage leider erst jetzt entdeckt.
Haben Sie das zweite Standfoto in Ghazalas Artikel auch gesehen?
Es ist ganz am Ende des Artikels "versteckt".

Danke, Oliver. Das war zumindest im "alten Forum" noch nicht da.

Want to discuss the influence of Ghazala on modern straight Egyptian breeding?

My SE mare Lu Antoinette that is listed for sale is a great, great grandaughter of Ghazala on the tail side.

LU ANTOINETTE M, ARABIAN, 1992
Color: gr
Height: 15.2H

LU ANTOINETTE
gr 15.2H 1992
ARABIAN LU AIBAS COSTELLO
gr 1984
ARABIAN IMPERIAL IMPEROR*
gr 1980
ARABIAN ANSATA IMPERIAL*
gr 1976
ARABIAN ANSATA IBN SUDAN*
gr 15h 1965 ANSATA IBN HALIMA* gr 14.3 1958
ANSATA BINT MABROUKA* gr 1958
ANSATA DELILAH*
gr 1972 ANSATA SHAH ZAMAN* gr 1968
ANSATA BINT MISR* b 1966
IMPERIAL MISTRY
ch 1977
ARABIAN MOSRY*
gr 1972 MORAFIC* gr 1956
SANAA gr 1961
ANSATA NILE MIST
b 1973 ANSATA IBN SUDAN* gr 15h 1965
FALIMA b 1965
LU AIBA
ARABIAN EL HILAL*
gr 15H 1966
ARABIAN ANSATA IBN HALIMA*
gr 14.3 1958 NAZEER* gr 1934
HALIMA* b 1944
BINT NEFISAA*
gr 1959 NAZEER* gr 1934
NEFISA* gr 1945
MORADIL
gr 1968
ARABIAN MORAFIC*
gr 1956 NAZEER* gr 1934
MABROUKA* ch 1951
IL MANDIL
gr 1964 MOFTAKHAR* gr 1946
SALOMY* gr 1957
GA MONITE MONET
gr 1979
ARABIAN IBN MONIET EL NEFOUS*
gr 1964
ARABIAN MORAFIC*
gr 1956
ARABIAN NAZEER*
gr 1934 MANSOUR* gr 1921
BINT SAMIHA* b 1925
MABROUKA*
ch 1951 SID ABOUHOM* gr 1936
MONIET EL NEFOUS* ch 1946
MONIET EL NEFOUS*
ch 1946
ARABIAN SHAHLOUL*
gr 1931 IBN RABDAN* ch 1917
BINT RADIA* gr 1920
WANISA*
ch 1941 SHEIKH EL ARAB* gr 1933
MEDALLELA* ch 1935
GHAZALAA TU*
gr 1975
ARABIAN TUHOTMOS*
b 1962
ARABIAN EL SAREEI*
b 1942 SHAHLOUL* gr 1931
ZAREEFA* b 1927
MONIET EL NEFOUS*
ch 1946 SHAHLOUL* gr 1931
WANISA* ch 1941
BINT GHAZALAHH*
gr 1959
ARABIAN SID ABOUHOM*
gr 1936 EL DEREE* gr 1920
LAYLA* ch 1929
GHAZALA
gr 1951 MASHHOUR* b 1941
BINT FARIDA gr 1931

Her daughter Lafilledefaaiq NA is my avatar. Lafille of course is a third generation of great grandaughters of Ghazala on the tail side.

Her granddgtr Darine Al rayyan was JR champ filly yesterday. She's out of Aischa (ghazala dghtr) and sired by Ashall who has aslo a line to ghazala because of safir.

And even she's not SE and also looking a lot like her mother bint deladiva, see at the ajman show the nur ad dine filly aj hojas. again ghazala her influence is there.

ibn nejdi sired also good in italy last year

DeeDee, you have the wrong Ghazala. The Ghazala that is being discussed in this topic is the daughter of Ghazal (Nazeer x Bukra) and Hanan (Alaa El Din x Mona). It's a beautiful name that is quite popular in naming Arabian Horses.

I was the person who resurrected this discussion.

this mare, Ghazala, was bred in many interesting combinations. I think the first breeding showed so much potential and a very good mind for Dr. Nagel, as she was bred to Zohair, an Alaa El Din son. That cross produced Yasmeen. After Zohair, Ghazala was bred to Madkour I, and produced Ayda, who like Yasmeen, was sold to someone else. No chance to influence Katharinenhof, from this progeny.

Then, came the exciting period of time at Katharinenhof

*JAMILL

And came the horses from this match, named Afifa, Alifa, Aziz, and Amrulla. I don't believe that Afifa has produced a foal and Alifa, like Yasmeen and Ayda was sold. However, the mare Amrulla has a good reocrd of progeny, as crossed with the stallion Salaa El Din. Think of the Al Rayyan horses, the late Safir and his son Ashhal Al Rayyan.

the Ansata Halim Shah son, Assad was the next mate for Ghazala, to produce Farida. Exciting cross, I have to say, as it intensified the Bukra blood.

Then came the great, Salaa El Dine and the stallion Adnan, who is a goosebumps producing copy of Ghazala's sire, Ghazal and also, the mare Nawal.

It's interesting to take a detour, right about here, and consider the breeding for the above named mare, Farida, who was Ghazala's foal by Assad. She was bred to Adnan, her half-brother (Salaa El Dine x Ghazala).

Ghazala's last breeding was to Nejdy, to produce the stallion Ibn Nejdy, who produced the much admired NK Hafid Jamil.

For me, it's extremely interesting to study the breeding patterns of this mare, Ghazala and the intense concentration of Alaa El Din and Bukra, two foundation Egyptian horses that are my personal favorites.

How is it for you, to think about this mare, Ghazala, and the lasting (and growing) legacy that she is providing for the SE breeder. In the future, when we discuss families of great merit, which Ghazala family will have the most impact on our community?

I was looking at her pedigree and didn't see Ghazal anywhere so I started doing some more research. I have to go to the PS and do more research there. I guess this SE pedigree research becomes very difficult. I like it. It's fun to look up. It's like a puzzle.
Thank You.
She is triple bred Moniet El Nefous on her tail side. She is so line bred. This research is complicated.

DeeDee:

I was the guest that pointed out that you have another Ghazala and not the one that is being discussed here.

The *Ghazalahh in your mare's pedigree is a much older horse, a 1951 mare, sired by Mashour and out of Bint Farida. The asterisk is a dead giveaway that she was imported to the USA from Egypt.



The mare in this discussion, the Hanan daughter, Ghazala was born in 1973 in Germany (I think the stallion Ghazal, her sire, died before Ghazala was born...just a bot of Arabian Horse trivia).

Your *Ghazalahh was bred to Sid Abouhom (El Deree x Layla) to produce Bint Ghazalahh in 1959.



This mare was then bred to *Tuhotmos, to produce the mare that is also in your mare's pedigree: Ghazalahh Tu



I am a strong visual learner and thought that by providing some pictures to tie in the information, might make it less difficult for you, in researching pedigrees.

Like I said earlier, Ghazala/Ghazalahh is a name that has been used quite often, as are other names. I don't even know how many Ghazala's/Ghazalahh's there have been...does anyone know? Like for example, the following horse is also Ghazala 1896, sired by Ibn Sherara and out of the "broken-legged mare" Bint Helwa.


Ralph

Ralph,

Wow, LU Antoinette looks like both of these mares. Almost ditto from what I can see. She also has that action.
Thank you so much.
I didn't mean to say that my research was completed, I ment to say it was complicated. It was early in the morning and I hadn't had my expresso.

Regards,
Dee

From a big time coffee drinker...that morning cup(s) just straighten me out!

Ralph,
I'm very perky after my coffee. One of God's better creations. Horses and coffee and in that order.

Hi Dee,
The mare Ghazala ( Ghazal x Hanan ) what a beautiful mare, I just can't stop admiring her and this family of horses.
I am the same way I need my coffee, sometimes I just can't seem to get er goin without it.
Robert,
Echo Hill Arabians
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Robert and Ralph,
All of this research stuff is making my head hurt. Rome was not built overnight.
This may take me a few days to unweave all of these Ghazalas. There are many.