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2mntn
Let's drag ourselves out of the sadness of Scottsdale. Here are a few photos I dug out of this forum. Please share yours! Let's see photos of what "Halter" should, and could be - according to you.

Here's Tom McNair and you-know-who!! No fright, no flight - Morafic looks like he's enjoying the show. Tom looks like he hates that "Get Smart" suit he's wearing, but is putting up with it. Whip is an accessory - not even needed.

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How about this one of Aladdinn and Erik Erlandsson - Aladdinn is scared to death, huh? Can you imagine this becoming vogue at the Big Shows - yes, we can!

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How about Bey Shah here - I never saw him, but I guess he was one who let you know he was KING!! What this - no whip marks, no flattened ears and no crouching, weaving, glove-fisted clown on the lead?

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My favorite for last - this could be me! I would LOVE to see our shows look like this again. The photo was taken at the Asil Cup in 1985 at Dillenburg and Madkour is shown with his then-owner, Erich Hagenlocher.

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Ray biggrin.gif
Suellen Taylor
Well this isn't a good photo, by any means, but this is Sunday Verses first show as a yearling in Music City, TN.

This is after he took the Reserve Championship, on the way out, so stand-up whatever is over..and he looks pretty relaxed to me.. He remains..to this day..a gentle giant at 15.3 hh, easy to stand up and now under saddle in Western Pleasure, which he enjoys!

BTW, I adore this gentle trainer, too!

Love your photos, Ray tongue.gif

TOP Of The Hill Arabians
Seglavi
Wonderful thread you guys, way to go! And that hat on Mr. Hagenlocher, wow, would that be a statement these days and a welcome one!
Pam Studebaker
dgogal
How inspiring! These shots all show the relationship between these super-intelligent and proud creatures with their handlers. I've seen the arabians responding so well when they are in Amateur (AAOTH) classes because THESE people love them and respect them. It would be nice if all stand-ups would end with a soft kiss to the muzzle!!!
dgogal
Madkour doesn't even look real....what a beauty.
Jenny Lees
gbfahne.gif Goudah in the collecting ring with Tracey Holland at the AHS National show Malvern 2008 laugh.gif Now you know why I have let Amr, Goudahs son ,go over to Traceys for a little training and one or two socialising show outings. The horses love her and trust her 100%. Just look how relaxed Goudah is rolleyes.gif practicing his stand up behind Traceys back laugh.gif laugh.gif

Jenny
oli
Another picture of Madkour (Morafic x Maisa) with Erich Hagenlocher at home.
(@ Ray it´s Erich not Heinrich wink.gif )
Nadj al Nur
My opinion????
This is how stallions ought to be able to be presented.......no clipping, greasing, or hype.........just tent horse gentle.
The stallion is Shalaum a Farazdac son, out of Sittana, and his little buddy........
Cathy
Jenny Lees
gbfahne.gif and after the class in the showground stables.
Jenny
Nadj al Nur
Sorry for the poor quality of that pic. Some of these have been in an albumn for so long that I cant get them unstuck from the page and have to scan them thro the plastic.............. doesn't work that well.
Cathy
Jenny Lees
QUOTE (Nadj al Nur @ Feb 27 2009, 11:47 PM)
Sorry for the poor quality of that pic. Some of these have been in an albumn for so long that I cant get them unstuck from the page and have to scan them thro the plastic.............. doesn't work that well.
Cathy
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gbfahne.gif Cathy it's a beautiful photo and says a lot about a trusting horse with an obvious heart of gold.
Jenny
Cheryl L
Here are a few show photos. The chestnut mare, is Mashallah Rashima, a high percentage Egyptian-related mare.
The others are Shamal (near white) and his son, Jamaal (dark grey).

Cheryl
sheikhrissan
Here are two you may have seen before. I will try and "digitalise" some others soon

Best wishes
Julia
PS First one Windsor Horse Show when he was about 14 and second one with Debby sittin on him when he was about 25
Cheryl L
This is what happens to Shamal when he takes 2nd place and then Reserve Champion. A pat on the neck and a great exit from the ring.
Cheryl

I fixed it.
2mntn
QUOTE (oli @ Feb 27 2009, 03:32 PM)
Another picture of Madkour (Morafic x Maisa) with Erich Hagenlocher at home.
(@ Ray it´s Erich not Heinrich  wink.gif )

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Thanks Oli! I just copied the name..sorry! Beautiful photo - got more?? wink.gif The same post said that Erich packed up all his stuff and horses and came to the US. Is that right? Sounds like there could be an interesting story there!

Ray
2mntn
Thanks everybody! Can't wait to see more.

Good one, Jenny - Goudah practicing behind her back... tongue.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif That's how it should look - handlers chatting while the horse stands for the judge to see - and judge the horse and not the handler.

Ray biggrin.gif
Solita
Beautiful photo.

QUOTE (Jenny Lees @ Feb 27 2009, 11:42 PM)
gbfahne.gif  and after the class in the showground stables.
Jenny
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Fadtastic
I would have loved to have seen Fadjur and Paul Polk.
They looked like they were having such a fun together.
Kris
Nadj al Nur
Yep, Ray.........Erich Hagenlocher was on the west coast for quite a while. Did you know that he also had Tuhotmos for his last years??? There is a pic somewhere, (will see if I can find it) of Erich with Tut and his little grandson on the horse.
Cathy
Georgia
Wow, what candid and never before (that I have seen) pictures. Thanks all, wonderful. Did you see the forearm on Morafic.. ?? biggrin.gif

Georgia
oli
QUOTE (2mntn @ Feb 28 2009, 01:13 AM)
Thanks Oli!  I just copied the name..sorry!  Beautiful photo - got more??   wink.gif  The same post said that Erich packed up all his stuff and horses and came to the US.  Is that right?  Sounds like there could be an interesting story there!

Ray
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Yes, Erich packed his stuff and nearly all the horses and went to California (and later to New Mexico). But he didn´t wan´t to make stress with the transport for his two old Morafic sons. So Madkour went to Nayla Hayeks Hanaya Stud in Swizerland and I got Shawky (Morafic x Bint Mabrouka).
He had two years Madkour´s son Messaoud at stud in California (and of course the world famous Tuhotmos and his EAO-Import Al Nowasy).

Messaoud (Madkour x Maymoonah)
oli
QUOTE (Nadj al Nur @ Feb 28 2009, 02:05 AM)
Yep, Ray.........Erich Hagenlocher was on the west coast for quite a while. Did you know that he also had Tuhotmos for his last years??? There is a pic somewhere, (will see if I can find it) of Erich with Tut and his little grandson on the horse.
Cathy
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Here it is.....

Tuhotmos with Erich and Christoph Hagenlocher
Nadj al Nur
Thanks Oli.........you have no idea how many magazines I went through..........LOL
Cathy
Dieter
Horses like those on this thread have such a natural presence and fire it makes me wonder why these trainers think beating them until they are aggressive or scared stiff is necessary. Don't their horses have this natural presence? blink.gif
AlineS
Or just give them carrots and they'll do everything for you!

My boyfriend with late Waskan, enjyoing their time together:

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julieM
All of the photographs of the " wonderful old boys " are showing quality arabians, with arabian energy calm and interested in what is happening, but when you say go they go and thats what the arabian horse is all about.
Sadly we have lost this quality in many modern breeding programs, the natural instinct, the very reason we love these horses so much. because of the bad treatment or simply lack of knowledge of horses and arabians in general we have ended up with todays show horse. Perhaps its time to invaid the showring with great natural horses that still exist, stop feeling intimidated by the fancy show boys and the dirty tricks, dont stay at home. Its when you are in the collecting ring that you know who the winner is, Its time do something about this situation.
I will certainly be showing this year, I dont care much about the results but would like the public to see the quality of my horses before its to late. Otherwise whats the point.

Juliem
sheikhrissan
Hi there

Here are some photos I love of when I was about seven and half months pregnant with my first child. I had just ridden Sheikh and someone said they'd like to take photos. He was being very loving (he was very attentive each time I was pregnant) and I like the shots. Sorry they are grainy, but they are digital photos of oldfashioned 35mm SLR shots!! The last one is my favourite.

Julia
Scott
QUOTE (2mntn @ Feb 27 2009, 10:27 PM)
Let's drag ourselves out of the sadness of Scottsdale.  Here are a few photos I dug out of this forum.  Please share yours!  Let's see photos of what "Halter" should, and could be - according to you.
Ray  biggrin.gif
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Hi Ray,
I'm seeing and reading about some great people and great horses on this thread. What's the old saying... 'what was once old is new again' owners, breeders actually showing thier own horses.... what a concept!!! wink.gif

Scott
Robert 1
Hi,
This is a pic of Jubilee Halima, a se son of * Ansata Ibn Halima and shown at the Egyptian Event years ago, what are they called,
The Good Ole Days laugh.gif
Jubilee was our main stallion at Echo Hill Arabians for many of our earlier years, he was a beautiful ride. biggrin.gif

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Robert
sheikhrissan
Jenny

I think that's so cute of Goudah to "practice" like that... He's such a good boy.

Julia
Georgia
OMG Oli, what a picture. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
I can just envision bedouin seeking shade from their trusted steed.

I'm in tears over all the wonderful pictures here.. I had almost forgotten how it used to be and how it should be. I also, regret not massing the millions (or even us thousands) and placing our ever Arabian loving behinds on the door step of AHA 20 years ago or better. Since I have poked my head back in 5 years ago and found still horrid situations in the show ring... I regret, I regret much.

Thank you so much Ray for starting this.. and I hope this thread continues long into the years of people posting how it used to be or how it is with their horses. and Pray AHA takes a look.

I find the people that abuse our beautiful creatures for the sake of a ribbon, damnation in hell.. for those that do not appreciate the minds of the creatures we see in these pictures a tragic loss to these sub-human beings.

Oh, what we could have been if it hadn't been for the greed of a few.
What a wonderful world it could be.

Georgia
Jenny Lees
QUOTE (Dieter @ Feb 28 2009, 12:07 PM)
Horses like those on this thread have such a natural presence and fire it makes me wonder why these trainers think beating them until they are aggressive or scared stiff is necessary.  Don't their horses have this natural presence?   blink.gif
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gbfahne.gif Pardon me for saying this but I think it's usually because the balls are on the stallions and not the handlers wink.gif
Jenny
Jenny Lees
gbfahne.gif Daughter in law Amanda with three year old entire colt wub.gif Pure Bahraini. Ray it's a Hamdaany wink.gif
Jenny
Cheryl L
I am loving these photos. Jenny, I have always been in awe of your horses.
The ones that I posted were all horses trained by me. With respect and treats and lots of praise. So yes, I do it MY way, yesterday, today and into the future.
Cheryl
MHuprich
We should all be able to enjoy ourselves and have a good horse laugh while showing....

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Jenny Lees
QUOTE (Cheryl L @ Feb 28 2009, 04:59 PM)
I am loving these photos. Jenny, I have always been in awe of your horses.
The ones that I posted were all horses trained by me. With respect and treats and lots of praise.  So yes, I do it MY way, yesterday, today and into the future.
Cheryl
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gbfahne.gif Cheryl...your way is my way too and it's the only way.
Jenny
Fadtastic
How about Joao of Los Acres, and any lucky horse !!!!
We need so badly to see happy horses again.
This is *Tiberio
Kris
2mntn
OK - I dug out some oldies - not Arabian horses, but it is a "halter show". biggrin.gif

At the Western Idaho Fair - circa 1983/84 (gosh, time flies!!) blink.gif

This is me (tall fella) in the mare lineup with May, one of my Suffolk/Belgium draft mares. My old friend, Henry Reimann is showing her sister, Dot, for me. Dot won Supreme Champion Mare in both 1983 and 1984.

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This is me and my son showing daughters, Charm and Challis, of the above mares. smile.gif

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This is me and my daughter in a team hitch class, young driver to drive. The team is a pure Suffolk stallion, Sir William of Little Deer Creek and the mare Dot, from above (she's throwing her head in this shot). wink.gif

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And this is back home with the ribbons - my gorgeous wife (of 41 years this June) is holding them for the photo.

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Nothing fancy, but a heck of a lot of fun - everybody helped each other out with stuff - lending tack and equipment - grooming - showing - cleaning up. Those were the days!

Ray biggrin.gif
Connie
This is a great thread! I love all these pictures of the way things were and they way they should be today. I just wish the people who need to see this willl read and take note of the loving expressions on the faces of all.

I love Arabians, but Ray those pictures are gorgeous! What sweet looking mares! Nice to see you and your beautiful family! Yay on the 41 years! My husband and I will mark 35 this year.

Connie
Sumerlan
QUOTE (Jenny Lees @ Feb 27 2009, 11:42 PM)
gbfahne.gif  and after the class in the showground stables.
Jenny
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QUOTE (Jenny Lees @ Feb 28 2009, 04:44 PM)
gbfahne.gif  Daughter in law Amanda with three year old entire colt wub.gif Pure Bahraini. Ray it's a Hamdaany wink.gif
Jenny
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True love and true temperament ... here is Imperial Falaah (Imperial Imdal x Imperial BTFawkia) ... one of my favorite shots together. Such a sweet, sweet mare who is totally adored by her Mom.

Susan
Sumerlan
Susan
enjoing Arabians in any way....
my stallion…"Exqisites Fantasy"
and my niece with "Akira"
Susan
Excuse me this is now Akira doing some lections with a carpet!
Robert 1
Hi Ray and all,
What a trip down memory lane, great stuff, please show some more everyone. biggrin.gif
Robert
Scott
QUOTE (Robert 1 @ Mar 1 2009, 03:07 PM)
Hi Ray and all,
What a trip down memory lane, great stuff, please show some more everyone. biggrin.gif
Robert
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Hey Bob,
Let's take out those old wink.gif pics of you back in the day with some of your horses..... I'd like to see that! You know you haven't changed too much since those days of you trick riding..... have any of those!

Scott
Dieter
Well, okay. Here is my 15 year old stallion with me at the lead asking him to stand up squared in a pose meant to display his true conformation. My son is on the camera (missed the feet!) and though he is no professional photographer, I think he captured this guy pretty well:
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No whip, no chin chain, no conditioning, no neck sweating . . . just pulled him out of his paddock with good ole' mom at the lead asking him for a nice squared up pose without stretching biggrin.gif Would love to let him show himself somewhere where being "au naturele" wouldn't be marked down - whiskers, hair over his eyes, no grease, no bridle path and winter fur to boot! cool.gif

Jenny and Ray and everyone, I LOVE your horse photos of happy horses and family companions. To me THAT is what the arabian is all about.

Liz
1rider
WOW Ray loks like fun. You two coming west with the last wagon train? biggrin.gif Great pics everyone...Ken
kay cochran
Ray, The draft mares are gorgeous! I've always loved the Suffolk breed even though I've heard they are testy. The cross is really beautiful. That is when showing was fun not a trial in punishment! Too much Hollywood today. JK
2mntn
Thanks Kay - Marcia really loved those big lugs - and they were sweet and easy to work with. smile.gif Darn heavy if they stepped on your feet, too! blink.gif

My old buddy Henry fixed me up with a McCormick Number 9 mower and a side delivery rake. Got some photos here somewhere of me and those mares cutting and then raking hay. It was only about 15 acres worth, but it seemed like a LOT more when you're taking it about five feet at a time. laugh.gif

Ray
Jenny Lees
gbfahne.gif Hi Liz......love your white Arabian in the snow...here is Goudah the first day he met snow.
Jenny
Dieter
Hi Jenny, Love Goudah too smile.gif He reminds me so much of Odysseus cool.gif
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Though, Odysseus is an old hand with snow - he's been in it for 14 years every winter. Brrr. Sure looking forward to spring!
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