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limegirl
Would someone be so kind as to tell me what the following name would be in Arabic? "The Sun ...", as in "The Sun Gazelle", or "The Sun Dancer"
Much thanks in advance.
R
HADHAD ARABIANS
QUOTE (limegirl @ Jan 5 2012, 05:12 AM) *
Would someone be so kind as to tell me what the following name would be in Arabic? "The Sun ...", as in "The Sun Gazelle", or "The Sun Dancer"
Much thanks in advance.
R


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Dear Limegirl,

if I am Right, the translation of "The sun" in arabic is "Al Shams" and for "The Sun Dancer" is "Al Shams Raguassi".
I am not an arabic man, but on my books I read so.

Best regards,
Domenico Tocchi

HADHAD ARABIANS
www.hadhad-arabians.com
limegirl
Thanks Domenico.
Some sources have 'The' as 'il', and I am not sure why there is a variation. Perhaps it is dependant on the gender of the subject, as in German?
I am also interested to know if 'The Sun' comes first or last.
Hopefully someone can shed some light on the subject!
Nadj al Nur
I am pretty sure that would be Shams Al (or El ) Raquass (for a colt) Raquassah (for a filly ) That is according to Bachir's new book .
Cathy
HADHAD ARABIANS
QUOTE (Nadj al Nur @ Jan 6 2012, 03:44 AM) *
I am pretty sure that would be Shams Al (or El ) Raquass (for a colt) Raquassah (for a filly ) That is according to Bachir's new book .
Cathy


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Dear Cathy,
is all ok in Canada ? Do you update you website to give us news ?
I read that for Dancer "Raguass" is the substantive and "Raguassi" is the adjective and in arabic the adjective goes after the substantive.

With our best regards,

Domenico
Gulsun Sherif
I hope this is not too complicated:

I personally prefer to use the “k” instead of the “q” as it is difficult for westerners to distinguish the nuance between the k and the more guttural q so they will pronounce it the same anyway. NOT a "g". Putting a “u” after the “q” could change the pronunciation of the word, i.e. Raquess might become Raqwess.

Shams means the sun, it is feminine.

The masculine of Dancer is Rakiss (the “a” as in “rah”).

The masculine of Sun Dancer would be: Rakiss Ash-shams

The feminine: Rakissat Ash-shams.

In Arabic, it is written Al Shams but when the letter “l” is followed by “s” or “sh”, it is not pronounced, it is contracted, i.e.

Al Salaam is pronounced As-salaam

Al Shams is pronounced Ash-shams so for westerners, let's write it the way it will be pronounced.

When followed by the letter “q” or “r”, for instance, the "l" is pronounced:

Al Kamar (the moon), Al Rakiss

If you write it: Ash-shams Al Rakissa, it would mean The Dancing Sun, Shams Rakissa would mean A Dancing Sun,
neither of them very attractive in Arabic.

The Sun Gazelle would be (actually, Gazelle of the Sun)

Ghazal Ash-shams in the masculine

Ghazalat Ash-shams in the feminine

Good luck with your choice,

Gulsun



Nadj al Nur
QUOTE (HADHAD ARABIANS @ Jan 6 2012, 01:05 AM) *
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Dear Cathy,
is all ok in Canada ? Do you update you website to give us news ?
I read that for Dancer "Raguass" is the substantive and "Raguassi" is the adjective and in arabic the adjective goes after the substantive.

With our best regards,

Domenico

Hi Domenico.........I am very bad.......have not updated my website for ages. Things are going well though........a very mild winter (so far). The horses are doing great too, so all is well.
Cathy
Nadj al Nur
QUOTE (Gulsun Sherif @ Jan 6 2012, 02:48 PM) *
I hope this is not too complicated:

I personally prefer to use the “k” instead of the “q” as it is difficult for westerners to distinguish the nuance between the k and the more guttural q so they will pronounce it the same anyway. NOT a "g". Putting a “u” after the “q” could change the pronunciation of the word, i.e. Raquess might become Raqwess.

Shams means the sun, it is feminine.

The masculine of Dancer is Rakiss (the “a” as in “rah”).

The masculine of Sun Dancer would be: Rakiss Ash-shams

The feminine: Rakissat Ash-shams.

In Arabic, it is written Al Shams but when the letter “l” is followed by “s” or “sh”, it is not pronounced, it is contracted, i.e.

Al Salaam is pronounced As-salaam

Al Shams is pronounced Ash-shams so for westerners, let's write it the way it will be pronounced.

When followed by the letter “q” or “r”, for instance, the "l" is pronounced:

Al Kamar (the moon), Al Rakiss

If you write it: Ash-shams Al Rakissa, it would mean The Dancing Sun, Shams Rakissa would mean A Dancing Sun,
neither of them very attractive in Arabic.

The Sun Gazelle would be (actually, Gazelle of the Sun)

Ghazal Ash-shams in the masculine

Ghazalat Ash-shams in the feminine

Good luck with your choice,

Gulsun

See.....this is what we need, some real lessons. Thanks Gulsun. (Maybe I'd better come to Cairo and learn from you and Yassmin, LOL )
Cathy
Gulsun Sherif
QUOTE (Nadj al Nur @ Jan 8 2012, 11:39 AM) *
See.....this is what we need, some real lessons. Thanks Gulsun. (Maybe I'd better come to Cairo and learn from you and Yassmin, LOL )
Cathy

Cathy, we've been waiting for you for SO long! When are you finally coming? Yalla (come on), inshaa Allah we will have a great time. And I promise you, you will pick up some Arabic!
Lots of love,
Gulsun
Nadj al Nur
QUOTE (Gulsun Sherif @ Jan 8 2012, 01:16 PM) *
Cathy, we've been waiting for you for SO long! When are you finally coming? Yalla (come on), inshaa Allah we will have a great time. And I promise you, you will pick up some Arabic!
Lots of love,
Gulsun

I KNOW......it seems like ages I have been planning to go..........but I will get there.........hugs
Cathy
limegirl
Gulsun - that is amazing! Thank you for all your effort in explaining the translation. It is just fascinating and so helpful!
Thanks to all who responded.
R
Gulsun Sherif
QUOTE (limegirl @ Jan 10 2012, 12:12 AM) *
Gulsun - that is amazing! Thank you for all your effort in explaining the translation. It is just fascinating and so helpful!
Thanks to all who responded.
R

You're most welcome.
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Raqes al shams ( the dancer of the sun ) colt
Raqesat al shams ( the dancer of the sun ) filly
al shams al raqesah ( The dancing sun )
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