Rod, what are the bloodlines, the one of the horse standing reminds me of Anaza El Farid... Also, in that photo, I do like the hind end on that horse.
Mike, great photos also. You said, "Sheila I think that this is the sort of horse you are thinking of. Stood in a stable, 95% of folk would walk straight past her without a second glance. Outside in motion its a different matter." Yes! I think, IMHO, the attributes on what makes a great SE has changed in the last decade and then some. Many have been told what is now beautiful and desirable, and perhaps have since ignored the wisdom of many SE breeders that were in it either right from the beginning, or just about as long.
However, what I am seeing happening is that many "other" breed people, or new comers at least in this area, are interested in some of my SE's, believing that they are different than what they have seen in other Arabian herds out there. These people do end up taking a second look at mares/stallions built like this! Ironic, isn't it, that SE people would keep walking past, while those of another of breed stop in their tracks...
And this is what breeding is about, IMHO. For instance, that mare you posted the picture of Mike, I know which stallion here I would breed her too. He is what some would consider small but is well proportioned, great legs, and we are planning on having him trained in reining. Hands down, she would be bred to him if she were mine!
Years ago, these "types" of horses wouldn't be passed up 95% of the time, but instead, sought after for a breeding program!!! It is like the mare I originally posted the photo of, I know where her faults are, and I know where her great strengths are also. And so, I have a stallion here who has shown me he can quite reasonably be expected to correct those faults, and we will see what happens in two years when a foal finally results!
Oh and Mike, are you by chance "military MIke"
from the EE?
Tkr9 - I know you don't own any horses yet, but given that fact, I am impressed with you. Many have followed a lead, and the original "types" of horses are being ignored and pushed to the side, unfortunately, perhaps through no fault of their own. After all, a majority of people only "know" what we are taught and base decisions on that.
Wahag, I like these pictures you posted. I also agree with what has been said here about having the horses tested under saddle, at least ridden, as it will give a better idea of what that horse moves like and thinks like. As Mike pointed out, there is a difference in how the horse feels and moves undersaddle pending the build of the hind quarter. And, from your posts Wahag, I think you would agree!
The bonus to date with my purchases of mature mares is that a majority of my SE mares are under saddle. The stallions here are also, with the exception of a three year old as I personally like to wait until they are at least four years old - but he will be getting some ground schooling this fall.
I am enjoying this discussion, keep offering your thoughts!